Tech IndustryJul 30, 2019

Google hiring bias

Genuine question - Google definitely has/can have models which can easily identify me as a liberal or conservative (based on YouTube and searches). Is there any kind of bias involved in internal recruiting system to auto-reject or suppress conservative culture applicants? Asking this because I am using Google opinion rewards and the questions in survey clearly depicts Google's ability to easily classify people. P. S - Google is great engineering company & want to work for it but please don't answer claiming Google as ethical & will never do such thing, I started doubting Google ethics as a company the day I got to know about project Dragonfly. It can result into huge lawsuits but I don't think Google/Facebook are even afraid of lawsuits or fine anymore! Edit 1 - It is not against any employees, great people work there. Questioning them as a company due to recent events. Edit 2 - https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/can-employers-discriminate-based-on-political-beliefs-or-affiliation.html Surprisingly, federal laws don't have protections for private employees against political bias. (at least not in a direct way)

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Google go/ogler Jul 30, 2019

If you think Google would look at your personal account data to assess your fit for a role, then you shouldn’t join Google.

Credit Karma Hurrah OP Jul 30, 2019

As I mentioned, I never thought & Google is epitome of Engineering but after recent events, it really feels Google can. But it's a good thing if they don't. Also, I definitely think personal account activity has some relation, I don't know what's it called but what is the system where you get programming questions to solve & get chance to interview at Google if you search something very much? (secret algorithm) Isn't that using personal account somehow?

Google #% Jul 31, 2019

Yeah, you shouldn’t join, because it’s true, and you won’t fit in unless you are easily brainwashed like the rest of the Googlers

Oracle not_larry Jul 30, 2019

You are not that important. Also this opens up legal liability.

Yelp sJJv80 Jul 30, 2019

Political affiliation is not a protected class in any state that I am aware of.

Facebook S4MEER Jul 30, 2019

No

Facebook dzntz Jul 30, 2019

Don't worry dude you won't be rejected for being conservative. What you should worry about is your pedophilia.

Facebook YoUm78 Jul 30, 2019

Sounds like you never worked in a huge corporation.

Credit Karma Hurrah OP Jul 30, 2019

As an engineer, F & G are at the top, no doubt. As a normal user, and even you might agree that if given freedom F & G won't even hesitate to build such a system. (Trust issues as a user) And it's a great thing if it doesn't happen.

Facebook YoUm78 Jul 30, 2019

I doubt that one org even knows about existence of the other. It would take enormous amount of design discussion and resources that would be hard to justify. Because this integration is so easy to spot, it involves huge external risks that companies of such size can’t tolerate. They just want to take somewhat talented engineers who are not unpleasant to work with. Nobody cares about your political views.

Facebook GFS_Queen Jul 30, 2019

Wow credit karma has really low bar.

Credit Karma Hurrah OP Jul 30, 2019

We may have a low hiring bar but people don't doubt us. Don't you see Facebook and Google actions which makes user doubt them? Didn't FB just paid $5 billion settlement to FTC for it's super nice user data handling?

Facebook GFS_Queen Jul 30, 2019

You seem to be under the impression that CK is comparable in terms of impact on the world / mindshare as FB/G. It’s not even close. People don’t give enough fuck about you to “doubt” you.

Yelp sJJv80 Jul 30, 2019

I certainly hope not, but I wouldn’t doubt it.

Google fdg Jul 30, 2019

I don't even know why there is such a huge issue over dragonfly. As a publicly traded company, it's the fiduciary responsibility of the company to explore all the ways to grow the revenue complying with local laws. Also we don't have such a system. Interestingly user data points that G/FB has is equally if not more lethal than SSNs. It can very well influence an election of the world's strongest country.

Credit Karma Hurrah OP Jul 30, 2019

Yes. Good to hear there is no such system. Exploring new markets is obviously important and China is one of largest but if you make a system that can censor things it makes people think you can do it in US too! (not all are engineers or in silicon valley mindset) Making money is important but did Google really thought complying with Chinese law for profits would make Google look good? (the market Google once left because of it's don't be evil motto?)

SAP bilit Jul 30, 2019

"I don't even know why there is such a huge issue over dragonfly. As a publicly traded company, it's the fiduciary responsibility of the company to explore all the ways to grow the revenue complying with local laws." It's not about laws, it's about ethics. Fiduciary responsibility is not the only responsibility a company has (especially of one the stature of Google). Goodwill is a company's asset as well, and important enough to appear on the Balance Sheet.

Cisco RottenRobi Jul 30, 2019

People who can't pass the muster try to rationalize. Google has a very high bar, which I honestly believe has nothing to do with ones beliefs. Some day, before it's not too late, I will summon the courage and will apply😀

Netflix sudormr Jul 30, 2019

I am sure they would look into that for the VP role but it will not be a tool, more like a few manual steps for ceo to see what’s going on. Totally expect it from google leadership, but not from the managers and directors

Google go/ogler Jul 30, 2019

Hahahahah. Sure. And get their asses sued plus a media scandal. Totally worth it. Do you also check Netflix watch history for VP candidates? Too many murder shows = psycho?

Netflix sudormr Jul 30, 2019

No one will ever know I would if it’s easy, for my vps wouldn’t you?