Google offer for L5 with ML background

LinkedIn Haskeller
May 25, 2018 66 Comments

Base: $190k
RSU: $720k / 4 years

I have a total of 8 years of experience, 4 of which at LinkedIn.

Thoughts?

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TOP 66 Comments
  • LinkedIn BlahAndBla
    Congrats, were you staff at LinkedIn?
    May 25, 2018 6
    • Google / Eng
      hellomom

      Google Eng

      PRE
      LinkedIn, Facebook
      hellomommore
      What? C'mon man. So you were a Senior. No shame in that.
      May 25, 2018
    • Google Facebook
      Senior at Linkedin is L4 at G, just to be clear.
      May 26, 2018
    • LinkedIn kEMY16
      Explain how Fresh PhD gets Junior SWE at LinkedIn and T4 at Google
      May 26, 2018
    • Google Trump,D.
      Fresh PhDs getting l4 at Google is just bullshit
      Jun 4, 2018
    • Apple okpH67
      No that fact is true
      Apr 21
  • Snapchat Aeeeyo
    Uber and Lyft will easily beat that TC. L6 eng at U/L will get you 500K TC no problem. Snapchat will give you 1M TC but so will that Nigerian prince..
    May 25, 2018 11
    • LinkedIn Shrimpguy
      Lol Snapchat
      May 25, 2018
    • Snapchat Aeeeyo
      335 for senior 1 or 2
      May 25, 2018
    • LinkedIn Haskeller
      OP
      Not sure, the recruiter just said it’s a senior position.
      May 25, 2018
    • Twitter FANGT
      Lol too bad both those companies you can’t actually cash out 500k TC per year seeing as how they are not public yet...

      And what do you think happens to the value of your shares when lyft requires another round of funding?
      May 25, 2018
    • Mesosphere onsie
      ^^ Hmm, it’s not that bad. Usually the price goes up to cover for the dilution. So, last round they went up from $32.15 to $39. I guess the bigger problem is it’s all illiquid rsu that you can’t even sell on the secondary market
      May 25, 2018
  • Apple John!
    $720k is L6 offer. Try to push for L6 title to get much better refresh in your review. L5 you will have steep drop in comp after 4 years
    May 25, 2018 8
    • LinkedIn Haskeller
      OP
      L5 is already a stretch for 8 years of experience, and google doesn’t negotiate levels AFAICT.

      I’ll have to work my ass off to get promoted within 4 years, otherwise my comp will drop drastically.
      May 25, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng I)!&£>?jsj
      Stretch? Is 8 yoe less for an L5?
      May 25, 2018
    • LinkedIn Haskeller
      OP
      With 8 years, google targets you for L4 unless you have a good reason to ask for L5.
      May 25, 2018
    • Square / Eng nom🍔
      I wouldn't worry about a drop in TC, with 380k$ comp and 4 years of Google experience you'll be fine..
      May 25, 2018
    • Google / Ops Huhf13
      You can bring people in at L6. It's tough but doable
      May 29, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng msfalg
    Sweet!
    What’s an L5 in Google? Comparable to L5 at Amazon?
    May 25, 2018 2
  • Arista Networks / Eng ps5
    How did you get your background in ML?
    May 25, 2018 0
  • Google / Eng GeoffDean
    Strong offer
    May 25, 2018 0
  • Yahoo LiamNam
    TC is ~400k. I’d say that beats most L5 offers easily.
    May 25, 2018 1
    • Google Facebook
      Because the median is 330k lol
      May 25, 2018
  • Google Joker!
    Yes 720k rsu is high. I got the same position (SWE ML) in with 6.5 yoe and 3 at LinkedIn and my RSU was 520k with 200k base.
    May 25, 2018 6
    • Google Joker!
      L5
      May 25, 2018
    • Twitter FANGT
      what is bonus pool for L5? 15%?
      May 25, 2018
    • Google Joker!
      Yeah
      May 25, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng I)!&£>?jsj
      L5 with 6.5 yoe. That’s great! How did you manage to get it? Any suggestions?
      May 25, 2018
    • Google Joker!
      6.5 imho is a bit too long to get to L5. Starting from L3, you usually get promoted to L4 in 1.5-2 years. 3 years should be enough to get to L5. That still leaves me with 1.5 years of extra time wasted :)
      May 26, 2018
    • LinkedIn Haskeller
      OP
      Yeah I’ve seen those numbers. I was kinda hoping to hit 99th percentile, but I guess 90th isn’t bad after all.
      May 25, 2018
    • Google Facebook
      What made you hoping to get 99%?
      May 26, 2018
    • LinkedIn Haskeller
      OP
      Because competing offers were high
      May 26, 2018
    • Google Facebook
      I guess the competing companies were not nearly close to G class?
      May 26, 2018
    • LinkedIn Haskeller
      OP
      One of them was FAANG and it was higher than G. DM me if you want more details.
      May 26, 2018
  • OP, is that your initial offer? Do you have any competing offers?
    May 25, 2018 5
    • LinkedIn Haskeller
      OP
      Initial offer, but I had competing offers beforehand. So they matched and said it’s non negotiable.
      May 25, 2018
    • Microsoft JDwb49
      What were the competing offers (company, title)?
      May 25, 2018
    • LinkedIn Haskeller
      OP
      Can’t share details, but some of them were a bit higher than Google’s offer. From FAANG and non-FAANG.
      May 25, 2018
    • Microsoft JDwb49
      I'm more interested in companies, not the offer TCs.

      P.S. Congrats on the great offer. I failed to get T5 even with 10 years of ML experience. Google did not even match a competing offer.
      My 155/450/50 Seattle offer is quite good for T4, but nowhere close to your offer 😁
      May 25, 2018
    • I got $250k TC for L4 recently. Your offer is one of the best ones I have seen for L5!
      May 25, 2018
  • Facebook yellowsky
    Were you matched to a product team that uses ML or one of ML teams ?
    May 25, 2018 0
  • New TOMW25
    Did you tell them your offers before or did they revise them afterwards? Can you describe the negotiation process a bit?
    May 25, 2018 1
  • Facebook yellowsky
    One of the strongest L5 offers I have seen. What is your LI level?
    May 25, 2018 0
  • Twitter Bit505
    Pretty good.
    May 25, 2018 0
  • Google / Eng
    jsidbfigb

    Google Eng

    PRE
    LinkedIn, Facebook
    jsidbfigbmore
    Congrats and welcome. I just joined from LinkedIn as well
    May 25, 2018 1
    • LinkedIn Freighter
      Can you share any tips for interview and how promotions work at Google? What level are you?
      May 26, 2018
  • LinkedIn saddle
    What level at LinkedIn? Congrats on the great offer
    Apr 21 0
  • Microsoft blogGlob
    Do you get cash bonus at Google ? And what's the range for L5 ?
    Jun 7, 2018 0
  • Groupon IXoA27
    @Haskeller, at LinkedIn, did they have a process for regular s/w engineers to move into ML?
    May 30, 2018 0
  • Jane Street Capital / Eng Jrzxvaj
    Great offer, though there’s room for RSU to be even higher. Congrats!
    May 25, 2018 0
  • Google iegb37
    Amazing offer. Any sign on
    May 25, 2018 0

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