I have 4 years of experience as software engineer at top hedge funds. I have designed and built backend micro services from scratch. I can do 90% of the tasks without someone telling me how to do it. I feel I am capable of performing as L4 but recruiter is saying that I can succeed better at Google if I start as L3. I don’t believe that. TC: 250-300K. Base 175K and rest is bonus. Should I refuse to interview for L3?
They won't match 300TC for L3
Google is known to down level folks. Move to FB instead
Worried about bad wlb at Facebook. But will definitely interview for leverage
How is your current WLB at Citadel?
It doesn’t hurt interviewing. Do best in your interviews and then start negotiating with other offers in hand.
You could kiss that base salary good bye. You wouldn’t get more than 140 base, 250 tc. Don’t do it. Tell her no and that you’re going to interview with Facebook
Honestly, you should go somewhere else or demand an L4 interview. You won't be happy at google at L3 and the recruiter is going to lie to you and tell you that you can just get promoted in a year.
Who are all willing to consider me for L4 other than Facebook?
Uber
Tell her the interview target is L4 or you won't do the interview. Worst case they give you an L3 offer if you performed decently well.
Yes that’s what i am thinking but for that she should also agree to setup L4 loop
300 TC for l3 is not possible. I asked and recruiter refused
Most external L4 hires I've seen have at least 5 years of experience, you're in the middle -- I'd probably wait a year before considering a move to a large company
That sucks. Do you really need 5 yoe to perform at L4 level? The guy who went to school with me joined google fresh out of school and just got promoted to L5 last month.
It's easier to get promoted internally than it is to be hired at any given level. If your friend is an L5 now, he'd probably come in as an L4 and be downleveled if he was interviewing at Google.
As a Google staffing manager, I'm assuming the recruiter is just trying to set you up for interview success, but clearly it wouldn't be in line with comp expectations. Just tell them you want to interview for L4, but also understand the expectations will be much higher in the process. Good luck!
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What’s the pay for that level?
L3 band is 150-250K. University grads and people with less than 2-3 yoe start as L3.