Google vs Amazon Alexa AI vs Uber Freight vs Microsoft

MathWorks 7fcb475
Oct 1 30 Comments

Got offers from those 4 companies. Advice needed.

PhD 2.5 yoe with some ML background.

Google L4, MTV, still matching the team. Potential teams Google ads infra, cloud data center supply chain optimization, still exploring more.

Amazon Alexa AI, Boston, Applied Scientist L4 (interviewing for L5, but down leveled due to some negative interview feedbacks). TC: 206k (haven't negotiate).

Uber Freight, SF, Backend SDE L4 (might go to ML direction when the timing comes). TC: 265k first year, 240k the rest 3 years. (Very unlikely to negotiate).

Microsoft, Seattle, SDE 61, Microsoft Teams Skype for business data platform. TC: 192k + yearly bonus (negotiated once).

Not sure whether it worth it to move from Boston to Bay Area considering the living cost. Wife has a job in Boston. Any advice is appreciated!

Current TC: peanuts.

Edited:
For those vote for Google, I found it is really hard to find a match with ML/AI teams as an outsider. Was able to chat with a Google Medical Brain team, did very well answering their interviewish questions, and was told "good to go", but ended up them pursing other candidates due to my join date (I need Visa transfer). Any advice for Google team match is appreciated!

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  • Amazon sPIE23
    Dude the people telling you to take amazon are doing you a disfavor. There’s no way in hell you should be an L4 with a PhD and 2.5 years of experience. Also, amazon benefits suck compared to every other company on your list.
    Oct 1 4
    • Amazon / Eng gr8coder
      L4 applied scientist is technically L5 SDE. The pay is also the same as L5 SDE, so is the coding expectations.
      Oct 1
    • MathWorks 7fcb475
      OP
      I heard quite a bunch of fresh PhD got L5, but I am not a CS PhD, although used some ML in my research.
      Oct 1
    • Amazon sPIE23
      Ok makes more sense now. I still wouldn’t take amazon.
      Oct 1
    • Amazon ufsgh
      AS pay = sde+1 at lower levels
      Oct 1
  • NVIDIA FCBH
    Google
    Oct 1 0
  • Amazon
    azmix

    Amazon

    BIO
    Here to share my experience and knowledge inspired by the support I got from minimsft.
    azmixmore
    If your wife is happy with her job in Boston - take Amazon’s job. You can always move to the Robotics team, which is probably bigger than Alexa there and work on very unique and difficult problems. Robotics is also very diverse in the roles and talents - and their VP is awesome.
    Oct 1 4
    • Amazon FalconX
      This 👆
      Oct 1
    • MathWorks 7fcb475
      OP
      Can you give more details on Amazon robotics? What exciting projects happening there? Is internal transfer to robotics that easy, given that I don't have much experience in C++ and embedded systems. I do have control system background though.
      Oct 1
    • Amazon
      azmix

      Amazon

      BIO
      Here to share my experience and knowledge inspired by the support I got from minimsft.
      azmixmore
      Unfortunately I cannot share any of the information about that team. They are focused primarily on logistics automation. You can ask your recruiter about the team though.
      https://www.amazonrobotics.com/
      Oct 1
    • MathWorks 7fcb475
      OP
      OK. Thanks for the link!
      Oct 1
  • New BgBs42
    Amazon. Once in you will be able to move up and easily overcome that interview downgrade
    Oct 1 3
    • MathWorks 7fcb475
      OP
      Can you elaborate how fast the promote gonna happen in Amazon? I was told that I am very close to L5, and they are expecting me to promote real quick, like several months. I personally don't want to rely on this "promise", and I am not sure whether I will burn out in the first several months to get promoted.
      Oct 1
    • Amazon Banana99
      It’s risky though.
      Oct 1
    • Amazon HGwR54
      Realistically you should expect at least 18 months for L5 promotion.
      Oct 1
  • Microsoft
    Google is the best choice
    Oct 1 0
  • Cerner / Eng
    StyaPichai

    Cerner Eng

    BIO
    This is Satya Pichai. The most powerful man on blind. DM me for acquisitions.
    StyaPichaimore
    If you want to settle down in the new company, pick Google. Else try Amazon or Uber for a couple of years and move to G.
    Oct 1 0
  • Google topCon
    Google
    Oct 1 0
  • GE / Data wWNX02
    How was your google interview? Level of coding questions? Did you do ML design as one of the rounds?
    Oct 1 3
    • MathWorks 7fcb475
      OP
      5 coding rounds, lc medium to hard (not super hard).
      Oct 2
    • GE / Data wWNX02
      You had all 5 coding rounds and no ML and leadership? That’s odd.
      Oct 2
    • MathWorks 7fcb475
      OP
      Actually 1 more behavior round. 6 total.
      Oct 2
  • Axtria KzhH222
    How was the interview for Applied scientist?
    Oct 1 3
    • MathWorks 7fcb475
      OP
      Lots of ML rounds with behavior questions. One coding round.
      Oct 1
    • Axtria KzhH222
      1. Was coding based on data structures and algo (LC based) or data manipulation (numpy pandas based)?

      2. How did you study ML design?
      Oct 1
    • MathWorks 7fcb475
      OP
      1. Lc based. 2. Read ESL and Deep learning books, and research projects/side projects.
      Oct 1
  • Uber / Eng itsdara
    Make sure the Amazon manager is a technical one who really knows the field. Otherwise you'll be only doing deployment, on call, dashboard reviews, region build, etc...
    Oct 1 1
    • MathWorks 7fcb475
      OP
      The manager is very technical, and even encourages publishing papers. Sounds quite reasonable and has clear plans in head.
      Oct 2
  • Uber hetltre
    Whats your G TC?
    Oct 1 1
    • MathWorks 7fcb475
      OP
      Haven't finished the team match, so no number yet.
      Oct 1

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