Deciding between the 3 offers below for summer internship. The most important criteria for me is getting a FT offer in NY post internship. Background: attend a top 1/2 CS school and already have Apple on resume. Google and Citadel have given me NY placement/teams and so I’m leaning towards those two. However I’m worried about the FT conversion process at Google not being a guarantee (especially FT location), compared to Citadels straightforward performance based conversion process. Furthermore, the team at Google is networking/infra, and I think the work on a market-facing Citadel team could be a lot cooler/more interesting. On the flip side, I'm worried that going down a FT path at Citadel might close off paths back into the product world in tech. Overall, I don't care a lot about the money or the clout so FT location in NY is my biggest decider, but I don't want to make a "wrong" decision here. Any thoughts?
Citadel has the highest chance of getting a NYC return offer. FB will be close to 0%.
Good to hear, I think that knocks FB out for me. I’ve had friends gun for NY FB placement and it looks like it gets harder every year...
Get fb out of the picture first! There have been a lot of movement from Citadel to Google but not so much vice-versa. I will suggest Google if its for SWE role for both. You can always change teams inside Google to what you like.
Some engineers at Citadel mentioned HFT poaching a lot of people for Big N, is this mostly false?
This is probably mostly true, but you’re unlikely to hear about those cases on blind. FWIW, I don’t know a single person who left JS for fang, while a lot of our new hires come from Google, Facebook, etc.
Go to any of the internships, you can always apply for a FTE role in nyc outside of your internships. I knew someone who started out citadel, quit within two years and is much happier. If NYC doesn’t work out for intern conversion, PM me for Spotify NYC. I went down the finance path briefly after being in tech and hated it.
Awesome will do
Google is opening a large new NY office. Also the general rule is only NY interns get NY return offers, not that no one does. But it would be more of a gamble.
Saw the news about 2021 expansion, would this mean better odds of moving to google NY a few years out of school? I am confident I could perform well during the internship, but have watched friends just get unlucky with conversion interviews and NY placement, and my NY FT requirements make me more risk averse.
Tough choice. Personally I’d lean away from Google unless you know you’re joining a strong team. Perhaps ask some folks at your school who have worked at Citadel. IMO if you want to stay in NY you should go to Citadel. You could always move here later.
Google.
My 2 cents. Come to Citadel and get a really high return offer ~ 250K TC. Use that as a leverage while doing full time interviews with FANG. Join FANG full time with a head start and 99% percentile L3 TC.
Thanks, just curious, how does that TC change if this is my senior summer and I would be starting FT after finishing my MEng (5 years).
This is precisely what I would have done.
Citadel and FB are known to have terrible WLB, so your FTE effective hourly rate would likely be lower than Google.
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Sorry, SWE
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