Google vs Grab offer

Microsoft JRVM5
Jun 24 44 Comments

I have offer from Grab Bellevue and Google Bay Area
Grab TC 260k base 160k annual bonus 24k Rsu 50k units worth 5.87$/unit vesting over 4 years
Haven’t got concrete numbers from google.
Both roles are for SWE ML

3 yoe, both offers are for L4

Comments/advice from people at grab would be really helpful

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TOP 44 Comments
  • Indeed UYDX18
    Google, no brainer. Seattle team has to follow leaders in Singapore and wlb is very bad in Grab
    Jun 24 10
    • Quora iSjP52
      I have also heard very bad things about the Grab culture and that it comes from top down
      Jun 24
    • Microsoft JRVM5
      OP
      iSjP52 by top down, do you mean from Singapore?
      Jun 24
    • Quora iSjP52
      Mm I mean that leadership perpetuates the bad culture. Thinking of some Americans who moved to Singapore
      Jun 24
    • Grab / Design Andeeee
      It is hit or miss with management. The folks above who had a bad experience and left have a valid perspective but I can only share mine.

      Imo, great wlb and pretty interesting opportunities. Stepping into Indonesia and Vietnam was eye opening for sure.

      Have worked with folks based in Seattle, in return for having to communicate with HQ after dinner some times you get the freedom to wfh. (Matter of preference)
      Jun 25
    • Microsoft JRVM5
      OP
      Andreee Are you in Singapore office?
      Jun 25
  • VMware ItsAlrite
    Grab the Google offer
    Jun 24 0
  • F5 Networks / Eng ->
    Congrats! Tough call. Steve Yeggie, who runs the Data team is based in Seattle (Bellevue to be precise).

    If they do IPO, I don't expect them to do better than Uber or Lyft.

    But, I really like the fact that at Grab you can be somebody rather than being a nobody at Google (at L4). Also, personally like Grab's vision and mission better.

    At the end of day, pick the right team. Being on the team which you absolutely love, learn and enjoy your work matters more than TC.
    Jun 25 4
    • Indeed UYDX18
      What vision? Their vision is to throw money at every possible direction and pray that they become profitable one day 🤣
      Jun 25
    • F5 Networks / Eng ->
      They've folks who are disabled using their wheelchairs to deliver.

      They've folks riding around in mopeds who act as taxis in SEA. That's so much better than Uber which never understood how to localize.

      They're so much more which I can think of and can't speak about because of the NDA which I signed when I visited them.
      Jun 25
    • Indeed UYDX18
      Ahh I guess their PR bullshit is working
      Jun 25
    • Amazon XuQzxc
      grab does not seem to care engineer too much, and the biz is built from a copycat.
      Jun 25
  • Grab Comeonlah
    Go for Google, Grab will suck the life out of you
    Jun 25 0
  • Tesla / Eng ufbtv
    Google the Grab offer or Grab the Google offer... We're all mere chasers of the TC!🍿
    Jun 24 0
  • Grab jerrywho
    Well, such l4 offers make a lot of old timers look like fools to be loyal to the company. Don't get me wrong, congratulations on your great offer but just feel sorry for us old timers.
    Jun 25 3
    • Grab / Eng
      givemeya

      Grab Eng

      PRE
      Baidu
      givemeyamore
      True. Cannot image how someone can get 50k units at lvl4.
      Jun 30
    • Grab Comeonlah
      This place does not reward loyalty. Unless you retaliate or threaten, they will happily suck you dry in exchange of peanuts, and tell you to be 'greatful'. Bunch of hippocrates, asking to 'outserve'
      Jul 3
    • Amazon fjsg29
      @comeonlah - Can you please elaborate? Not rewarding loyalty => no refreshers/4-year cliff?!
      Jul 15
  • Grab / Other
    bHgstu

    Grab Other

    PRE
    Uber
    bHgstumore
    Join Google. Learn actual shit from senior talented folks. Grow over next 4-5 years. Come back at grab as HOD. Thank me later. Cheers
    Jun 25 0
  • New rgiQ58
    So they told you that you passed HC, you have a team, but they haven't given you numbers yet? Don't you have to have offer numbers for the final VP approval step?
    Jun 24 5
    • Microsoft JRVM5
      OP
      I am currently at team matching phase.
      Jun 24
    • New rgiQ58
      Ah, gotcha. Be aware that it's not a done deal yet...
      Jun 24
    • Microsoft JRVM5
      OP
      What are the chances of not finding team?
      Jun 24
    • New rgiQ58
      Which level? I've seen a bunch of L3 horror stories here on blind about people not being able to find a team after HC approval for weeks/months
      Jun 24
    • Microsoft JRVM5
      OP
      L4
      Jun 24
  • Microsoft Tattle
    Does Google have any decent openings in seattle, which team are you looking to join?
    Jun 24 2
    • Microsoft JRVM5
      OP
      I have opted for bay area
      Jun 24
    • Microsoft Tattle
      Got it, as I see it, Google experience carries a lot of weight. If TC makes it worth while to move to bay then I'd take it.
      Jun 24
  • Grab / Eng
    DSIY86

    Grab Eng

    PRE
    PayPal, InMobi
    DSIY86more
    People in Grab are down to earth and happy to share knowledge. There are lot of interesting problems to be solved at Grab. It will definitely teach you alot if you are in for knowledge. However, late night meetings with folks in Singapore, being on-call is an issue for most people. If you are not leading a team you might not face these issues. frequent Internal org. restructuring is very common and it’s a high pace environment, OKR’s changes very oftenly, but if you have a right leader on top, this can be your best gig so far. it’s definitely demanding company which makes it difficult to balance work life.
    Jun 25 1
    • Grab / Eng sosjbshwo
      Down to earth and helping is true of US teams, but Singapore teams are not as good, and Chinese teams are basically combative.
      Jun 25
  • Grab / Eng sosjbshwo
    Really high offer for Grab L4, congrats. Also I really like Grab, but I'm not on call. I know lots of people that don't like it for that.
    Jun 25 0
  • Google NSFW4
    When you say SWE ML... What does that mean exactly? I'm trying to get more into ML... But not interest in ML infra
    Jun 25 3
    • Microsoft JRVM5
      OP
      They have specific ML interview loop, mine was more on NLP. What do you consider as ML infra? And are you looking to get more ML modelling?
      Jun 25
    • VMware ItsAlrite
      Why are you not interested in ML infra? Just curious.
      Jun 25
    • BitGo XpoH71
      Unlikely to be research focused in infra.
      Jun 25
  • Clearstream.TV beedangs
    Yoe?
    Jun 24 1
    • Microsoft JRVM5
      OP
      3 yoe, edited the post
      Jun 24
  • Amazon / Eng mOwGLee
    Yoe? And is it for a senior role?
    Jun 24 1
    • Microsoft JRVM5
      OP
      3 yoe, L4
      Jun 24