Got offers from both:
Google (L3 production network engineer): 123k/170k/30k/18k (15% bonus) = 184k excluding sign-on
Vmware (MTS-3, quality eng): 160k/100k/20k/19.2 (12% bonus) = 204k excluding sign-on
I feel more inclined towards Google due to:
1. Profile looks good
2. Plenty of opportunities to learn
3. Having Google on resume
Just feeling a bit bad that I am compromising almost 20k in salary for having Google on my resume.
Got offers from both:
- Cisco gutkiI don't believe VMware is a "storage company". They are pioneers in Compute virtualization and also Network virtualization with NSX after Nicira acquisition. Private Cloud/On Prem & Hybrid Cloud is here to stay and would always be an option. My advice would be not to go by name only - sure Google looks good in resume, but if you continue to be in field of Networking, Cloud or Virtualization, so does VMWare. IMHO it is always about where you'd do your best work. And as others mentioned, try negotiating with Google while keeping in mind that it is VMWare who seems to be offering more value to you.
- I am telling this based on 10+ years of experience in storage industry. Private cloud concept is dimnishing, along with it the prospects of Vmware or any other enterprise company. Cloud usage is still in nascent stage. In the next recession, cloud migration will explode. What does this mean to you? Pick Google even though GCP is the right now weakest of all of the public cloud vendors in revenue.
- BTW, my prediction is about the future and more so in the context of the so-called next recession. During 2008 recession and after, vmware made landslide gains because all corporations worldwide adapted to virtualization to curtail the costs. In the next recession, the same kind of adaptation may possibly increase prospects of the public cloud. That's all! There is nothing to feel emotional about my comment.
- What experience did you have before you applies to Google? I'm new to network eng field so looking for advice. Feel free to pm
- VMware nsucksI will be moving to the production networking team at Google soon, as a software engineer. There's a lot of software development happening in that larger group and all the network engineers write a lot of code. It's not traditional routing stack or SDN work, you'll work on software that aids network planning or detection of network errors etc. This part of your decision depends on what you're interested in.
In terms of comp, VMware front loads your comp, don't expect great stock refreshers. Google on the other hand has yearly refreshes for meets expectations and above, so in a year you will easily go past what you'll make at VMware.
- Do you understand the difference between quality engineering and production network engineering? Which team did you like better? Inclined to say Google but depends on the team. Your too young/early in your career to worry about money (you'll be able to make up for the 20k sooner than you think)
- nm, I just read at the very bottom you need to try new role other QA/Test role?
I think you should be able to switch within Arista.
If you are looking for a hike with role change then go for Google they are our customers so you definitely have a advantage of the product knowledge gained here
- VMware / R&D ckgC75From a technology standpoint, Google does everything VMware does and more. Go to google. There is too much politics and many mediocre managers at VMware to make sufficient progress.
20k is nothing in the long run. You will probably make much more and be happier at Google.
- depends on what side of the competition you want to be on.
Google is a cloud leader, and VMware is ramping up to be. VMware wants to win and capture the market. They have a leading advantage since they already run most of the world's VMs.
To be at Google, or be part of the force that beats Google? 🤔
- easy choice vmw. what do you want to be network engineer or software engineer? imo they are not the same. check if google can hire you as software engineer. if they do, go with them. otherwise join vmw and try next year