This is so frustrating. Passed HC at lower level than originally interviewed for. Apparently, they didn't get enough signals on the system design aspect. Had an option to do more system design interviews for the original level or downlevel without extra interviews. I chose the latter as I thought level offer was solid. Matched with a team. Then came the news that my profile didn't pass the executive pre-review stage (before numbers are discusses): lower level is not appropriate for the number of years of experience. Have to do extra interviews for the higher level. Why can't a company as large as Google figure out if level is appropriate or not from the start of the process instead of wasting everyone's time? And why not schedule two system design interviews for the initial interview day if they can't get enough signals from only one?
Sorry to hear about your experience. It's unusual for the pre-review to enforce extra round of interviews for a level-up. I say this because it's very normal for people at Google to be downleveled despite the years of experience (not all experience is high quality). I know someone on my team with 15yrs experience who joined as an L4.
That being said, I think you should take this as a good signal. Some exec clearly thinks you've got the chops for the next level but they want to respect the HC and that's why they'd prefer you earn it through an extra interview. I know it's annoying and what not, but I think you're almost there and so does someone much higher up :) Good luck!
I really hope it's because they think I could do well at higher level and not some other crap that was in the news recently related to Google's hiring preferences
That sucks and I see the positive perspective above. Good luck and I hope all this pays off!
How many years of exp do u have and what level of offers?
I second this question. Is it T3 with 20 years of experience or something more reasonable? Perhaps an old school point, but, hiring an overqualified person is not a terribly good idea.
I'll just say that the lower level and yrs of experience combo is not unusual for Google and in line with another poster's example.
Lol typical google
What’s the recent hiring related news? I’m about to have phone interviews for two different roles and I’m a well experienced guy :(
Bing about the lawsuit a former recruiter who worked for Google filed against the company.
Does Asian include Indian?
Sorry this happened. Google would pay you competitive offer for you years of exp nonetheless, but probably the pre review called bullshit and made you go through the higher level. They probably didnt want someone with lower level and get paid at a higher level. The recruiter actually tried to help you here. Just what I think what happened
Based on previous comments, I would have been in the top 10-15% of the lower level but still in the band
Tell me about it. After the phone screens and the on-site grind, and the very long wait of the HC review, I was told that there is no headcount.
Which location and position?
You took which offer? I don't have an offer, executive pre-review committee didn't approve the downlevel.
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Give recruiter feedback. They pretend they take candidate feedback seriously
I did say I'm frustrated for them to renege on the level. I understand they have a process to follow but I as a candidate see it as reneging.
I see it as a breakdown in the process. It shouldn’t be the executive who catches things like this, although kudos to them for paying attention. Sadly, having become involved in hiring a lot more lately, I see this too often. Despite nominally having a process, it’s not repeatable or consistent. Every time something goes wrong, and often it’s something that’s gone wrong before, and recently.