Google's hiring process is frustrating

May 6, 2018 38 Comments

This is so frustrating. Passed HC at lower level than originally interviewed for. Apparently, they didn't get enough signals on the system design aspect. Had an option to do more system design interviews for the original level or downlevel without extra interviews. I chose the latter as I thought level offer was solid. Matched with a team.

Then came the news that my profile didn't pass the executive pre-review stage (before numbers are discusses): lower level is not appropriate for the number of years of experience. Have to do extra interviews for the higher level.

Why can't a company as large as Google figure out if level is appropriate or not from the start of the process instead of wasting everyone's time?

And why not schedule two system design interviews for the initial interview day if they can't get enough signals from only one?

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TOP 38 Comments
  • Google / Eng PowerOn
    Sorry to hear about your experience. It's unusual for the pre-review to enforce extra round of interviews for a level-up. I say this because it's very normal for people at Google to be downleveled despite the years of experience (not all experience is high quality). I know someone on my team with 15yrs experience who joined as an L4.
    May 6, 2018 19
    • OP
      That is assuming I do pass additional interviews.

      The distress is coming from potentially losing one offer, as I doubt the other company will wait for an additional month. The distress is also coming from losing a matched team that I'm excited about (they will not wait a month for me to prep, do the interviews, wait for HC, pre-review etc.).
      May 7, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng AmI3vil
      Why do you need to prep for a month for design interviews? Didn’t you already go through enough design rounds between Google and the other companies that you should be ready?
      May 7, 2018
    • OP
      If I have been ready, Google probably wouldn't have required more system design interviews. They are saying they didn't get enough data points, but I'm sure they'll scrutinize my system design skills more than in a regular interview session, since now the focus will only be on system design.

      And I don't need a month to prep, but scheduling an interview, HC and executive review will likely take at least 2 weeks.
      May 7, 2018
    • Google / Eng PowerOn
      I think you have your answer then 🤷‍♂️
      May 7, 2018
    • Microsoft Tac
      Its very frustrating. For me interview feedback was very solid and at par for L5. They down leveled based on number of years of experience. As there was confusion between L5 and L4 in HC meeting, recruiter is trying VP approval based on reference and other offers of similar level. This is so much time consuming that now I thought of reading blind and now posting response - further killing time.
      Feb 27
  • Salesforce BaceFook
    Give recruiter feedback. They pretend they take candidate feedback seriously
    May 6, 2018 3
    • OP
      I did say I'm frustrated for them to renege on the level. I understand they have a process to follow but I as a candidate see it as reneging.
      May 6, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng AmI3vil
      I see it as a breakdown in the process. It shouldn’t be the executive who catches things like this, although kudos to them for paying attention. Sadly, having become involved in hiring a lot more lately, I see this too often.

      Despite nominally having a process, it’s not repeatable or consistent. Every time something goes wrong, and often it’s something that’s gone wrong before, and recently.
      May 6, 2018
    • OP
      My downlevel "offer" was not that unusual for Google. They have employees with my experience and the lower level. It was not an error. As someone else wrote in this thread, it's unusual for pre-review committee to force this issue
      May 6, 2018
  • Amazon Funkychick
    Tell me about it. After the phone screens and the on-site grind, and the very long wait of the HC review, I was told that there is no headcount.
    May 6, 2018 1
    • Microsoft Sct909
      Which location and position?
      May 6, 2018
  • What’s the recent hiring related news? I’m about to have phone interviews for two different roles and I’m a well experienced guy :(
    May 6, 2018 3
    • OP
      Bing about the lawsuit a former recruiter who worked for Google filed against the company.
      May 6, 2018
    • Does Asian include Indian?
      May 6, 2018
    • OP
      Yes
      May 6, 2018
  • Microsoft LittleScot
    How many years of exp do u have and what level of offers?
    May 6, 2018 2
    • Microsoft / Eng AmI3vil
      I second this question.

      Is it T3 with 20 years of experience or something more reasonable?

      Perhaps an old school point, but, hiring an overqualified person is not a terribly good idea.
      May 6, 2018
    • OP
      I'll just say that the lower level and yrs of experience combo is not unusual for Google and in line with another poster's example.
      May 6, 2018
  • Google twii
    Sorry this happened. Google would pay you competitive offer for you years of exp nonetheless, but probably the pre review called bullshit and made you go through the higher level. They probably didnt want someone with lower level and get paid at a higher level. The recruiter actually tried to help you here. Just what I think what happened
    May 6, 2018 1
    • OP
      Based on previous comments, I would have been in the top 10-15% of the lower level but still in the band
      May 7, 2018
  • Microsoft ToTheMoooo
    Lol typical google
    May 6, 2018 0
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    • OP
      You took which offer? I don't have an offer, executive pre-review committee didn't approve the downlevel.
      May 6, 2018
  • That sucks and I see the positive perspective above.

    Good luck and I hope all this pays off!
    May 6, 2018 0