Got offers from both uber and waymo, help me decide

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Aug 2 40 Comments

Blind- need help deciding what offer to choose: current TC is 220k

Roles below are non tech

Uber- L5b, senior 2
Base: 165k
Equity: 290k
Yearly Bonus: 25k
TC: 262.5k

Waymo- L5
Base: 165k
Equity: 150k
Yearly Bonus 15%: 25k
TC: 227.5k (liquid is 190k)

Which one would you take? Is Waymo considered prestigious? Issue here is I like Waymo’s role more but Waymo equity is not liquid. Plus, Uber’s TC is higher. Trying to get Waymo to match?

Thoughts?

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  • Facebook
    dndksidish

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    dndksidishmore
    Didn’t Uber just lay off 400 non-techies?
    Aug 2 2
    • Tesla / Ops
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      OP
      yup...but i worked at tesla so that shit doesn’t faze me
      Aug 2
    • Facebook
      dndksidish

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      dndksidishmore
      😎🤘
      Aug 2
  • Uber uEcon
    Role? Is that software engineering? That's the lowest 5b offer I have seen.
    Aug 2 3
    • Tesla / Ops
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      sorry i updated in post...non tech roles
      Aug 2
    • Microsoft OgUa26
      Is 5b at $500K+ TC for software engineers? Levels fyi accurate?
      Aug 2
    • Uber uEcon
      @OgUa26 yes;
      Aug 2
  • Google 🎖Me🐎
    Waymo TC is good and per alphabet standard. Imo waymo is better than uber long term. Given they are still a fresh team, you have high growth scope
    Aug 2 4
    • Tesla / Ops
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      OP
      thanks for feedback! that’s what i’m thinking, but the old me is telling me to grab the higher tc and run
      Aug 2
    • Google 🎖Me🐎
      Fair enough. One would turn millionaire once the ipo is out. But all depends on how long you intend to stay.
      Uber if short term and you wanna retire soon and have financial liabilities.
      But if no liabilities and not looking for an early retirement then I would go for waymo. It's a rising Sun!
      Aug 2
    • Tesla / Ops
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      OP
      gotcha, thanks for the input...waymo ipo is also not guaranteed
      Aug 2
    • Uber PgtV35
      Don't think you can turn millionaire once ipo is out. Waymo is already well-evaluated at hundreds of billions, there is limited space for further growth (look at Uber's valuation in the past 3 years, it didn't change much, and you are certainly not turning millionaires on Uber IPO if you joined in the past 3 year).
      Aug 2
  • Tesla Nik0la
    I would def recommend Waymo as well. Uber is going through a lot of org changes and possibly more layoffs in the near future (I had an offer from them as well and didn’t go for it)
    I doubt if Waymo will go up on base but conserving they possibly will ipo in the next coming years its best to negotiate the stocks.
    Also you’re not getting a sign on? Push for that too. Start with 50k
    Aug 17 5
    • Tesla / Ops
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      OP
      thanks for the feedback...got them to raise on both base/equity as well a sign on of 40k...im going with waymo
      Aug 17
    • Tesla Nik0la
      Awesome. Breakdown?
      Aug 17
    • Tesla / Ops
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      OP
      ended with 170k base, 170k total equity, 15% yearly bonus, and 40k signon

      they seemed stingy with equity, but i thought overall was a good package
      Aug 17
    • Tesla Nik0la
      Awesome. 🙌🏼 funny I’m still at Tesla but I’m happy for your new opp.
      What’s your YOE?
      Aug 17
    • Tesla / Ops
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      OP
      keep fighting the good fight! i’ll always be supporting tesla...i’m ~7 yrs yoe
      Aug 17
  • Capital One / Mgmt
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    Get Waymo to come up. Waymo is still an R&D shop, Uber has to make money ASAP which means cuts in the future.
    Aug 2 1
    • Tesla / Ops
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      thx for the feedback - that’s what i’m trying to do
      Aug 2
  • LinkedIn no-go
    This is bogus or non-eng
    Aug 2 8
    • LinkedIn no-go
      A friend has 500k TC at E5B
      Aug 2
    • Tesla / Ops
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      OP
      wow, what was that person’s role?
      Aug 2
    • LinkedIn no-go
      Backend eng
      Aug 2
    • Chegg snt124
      People on blind severely lack reading comprehension. Every time someone posts a non tech offer and clearly state non tech, there’s a poster that says “low ball average engineer offer is $X”
      Aug 10
    • LinkedIn no-go
      Agreed
      Aug 10
  • Chegg snt124
    OP - what kind of non tech role? Product/program management? Marketing? Analytics? Tc seems pretty good for non tech
    Aug 10 1
    • Tesla / Ops
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      OP
      PgM...operations. Thanks!
      Aug 10
  • New / Other
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    ubemore
    Which team on Uber? ATG?
    Aug 2 1
    • Tesla / Ops
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      OP
      ping me if u want to know
      Aug 2
  • Cruise Automation yQFb33
    Waymos equity isn't liquid? Isn't it just Alphabet stock?
    Aug 2 1
    • Tesla / Ops
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      waymo stock
      Aug 2
  • Deloitte Magnate
    YOE? Any details of the JD u can share?
    Aug 2 1
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      ping me if u want to know
      Aug 2
  • PayPal locusfocus
    Waymo is doing a lot of cool stuff. I read an article somewhere about how they are changing their machine learning practices to be inspired by evolutionary biology and that will likely produce a safer technology for autonomous vehicles. Uber hasn’t found much success outside of their core value prop. I’d take Waymo if I were you. Good luck !
    Aug 2 1
    • Tesla / Ops
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      thx!
      Aug 2
  • Which side of house in uber .. I am 4 with 150k base and will be 5a next month with 160k bass..
    Aug 2 0