Green card priority date

Intel Jjjhhgggbb
Sep 11, 2018 64 Comments

Just noticed EB2 India moved back from Mar 2009 in August bulletin to sometime in 2007 in the September bulletin. Sucks ! Have been here for 11 years, have house and kids. We are in bonded labor here. Thinking of other options , like moving out of the country. No amount of money is worth this. What are other folks in blind doing about this ?

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  • Did u just come out of the cave? What were u hoping here?

    I have been here 10 years too but I don’t feel I am entitled to anything because I know when I applied for visa it was temporary and i could be asked to return.

    Seems like u only booked one way ticket out from India..

    Edit: you are not BONDED LABOR.. bonded labor is what Indians are in Dubai or Saudi where their passports are held and they are forced to work 12 hours a day under excessive heat..

    It’s cribbers and entitled Indians who screw up everyone..

    Sep 11, 2018 15
    • Intel sabertooth
      It took you 11 years to realiz there is such a hassle in moving jobs and uncertainty ? Damn, you must be really dumb
      Sep 11, 2018
    • LeanTaaS desi-giri
      OP...from 2013...priority dates are almost same...okay, it's never late to realize and make the next move accordingly....

      So what's your next move...
      Sep 11, 2018
    • PayPal Yellostone
      Saberooth, don’t be a dick! It started getting tough from a couple of years! Before that it was not so uncertain!
      Sep 11, 2018
    • Intel sabertooth
      What are you talking about? Its been always like thay
      Sep 11, 2018
    • Salesforce Strangefor
      Dollars and packages is one thing, like someone said building your life here with family etc and uprooting is primary. 10 yrs back when you came here finding jobs and moving was simpler... with a life with family built around now in US, kids going to school, paying the cost of studying here and what not...it’s a tough call to make.
      Sep 11, 2018
  • Google tahrirshah
    Yet another green card thread and more cribbings.

    Here is the thing: GC backlog can't be fixed by anyone other than Congress. The only way Congress fixes anything is by passing a law. A bill becomes law by passing in house senate and then assent by the president.

    If you want to fix, go help folks who are working hard for the bill to pass. Advocacy is hard, but at least it is better anyday- you are reaching out to an elected representative seeking help. It is better than posting in a forum, being a whiny person and making everyone else feel like you are a privileged biatch (which I don't think you wanted to either convey or mean). Politics in US works differently. You can reach out to your rep and ask support.

    The bill is hr392. Look it up! I have no pm left for the month. Please pm me if you want.
    Sep 11, 2018 11
    • Amazon rust
      I'm absolutely opposed to a bill that is EVEN WORSE than the status quo. That doesn't mean I like the status quo.

      You are being extremely selfish pushing for a bill that fucks up the entire system only to benefit yourself.

      We need an actual fix. We need a solution that results in NO QUEUE.
      Sep 12, 2018
    • Google tahrirshah
      It's not worse, it's better for more than 90% being serviced by the line and not for a small number whose wait times go from 0-5. Your major point is (privileged) folks don't have patience to wait 5 years. Duh! Most on the line are waiting for more than 15 years now and will have to wait for 100 more years.

      I am also human, I don't have patience as well. Why aren't you even considering me human? Can you also consider me human 🙂
      Sep 12, 2018
    • Amazon rust
      There are two ways to get to NO QUEUE. One is to increase the number of GC, the other is to reduce the number of applicants.

      I prefer reducing the number of applicants. It should be a fair solution that gives people from every country an equal chance.

      The existing applications should then be instantly approved under the old rules but without waiting, or instantly assessed under the new rules and approved/denied.

      No queue.

      That's a fix. Hr392 is not a fix. Hr392 takes a situation that is badly broken for India and makes it badly broken for the whole world. It's not better for 90 percent of APPLICANTS, most of whom GOT APPROVED AND ARE NOT WAITING under the old system.
      Sep 12, 2018
    • Google tahrirshah
      You have excellent ideas. Please pass a bill with your ideas on the Hill. I will be cheering you from the sides !
      Sep 12, 2018
    • Amazon rust
      Sure, and in the meantime I am writing my congressman and senators and urging them to vote against 392 because it's bad for America.

      I will definitely let them know I want to see a bill that results in no queue for anyone.
      Sep 12, 2018
  • LeanTaaS desi-giri
    Sell your house and whatever profit you made, go for EB5 visa (if you are short of money, save for few more years...its only $500k) or stop crying like a bitch...either quit the job and move on to another country or shut the fuck up

    And btw we both know, no one is moving anywhere...
    Sep 11, 2018 0
  • Amazon EFaX22
    Make India Great Again?
    Sep 11, 2018 0
  • New Egypt80
    Nobody, except some Indians, likes this resolution. Most importantly, American tech workers are lobbying against it. If one is against this resolution the response should not be 'go write your own bill'. You know why? Because the status quo works for the person who is against it and all they need to do is point out the clear flaws in this resolution. Those who want to be free of the backlogs and want to lobby for congress to change the laws, should lobby for a resolution that helps them and harms no one else. Then maybe others can get behind it.

    Right now, hr 392 has real opposition to it and the only people lobbying for it are Indian tech workers. It would be foolish to ignore the concerns of those who are opposed, very real concerns, and instead say 'go write a better bill'. Why can't you lobby for a better bill?

    At this rate this back and forth will continue and the backlogs will only grow, 10 year waits will turn to 20 and then more.
    In the meantime, USCIS is tightening the screws on h1-b and I suspect I-140 petitions are next on their list.
    Sep 12, 2018 10
    • Amazon rust
      See how people feel when they realize it means a five years wait.

      There's a lot of BS being spread about hr392, the people pushing it rarely bother to tell you that even if it is implemented the queue will actually CONTINUE GROWING.

      It will reduce to a few years only by spreading the pain around to everyone but because the number of applicants will continue to be more than the number of visas it will then just get longer and longer.

      It's a scam.
      Sep 12, 2018
    • Google tahrirshah
      Actually I think those iranian F1 students are totally misguided. They will get screwed during F1 to GC interview. That's something many don't know and 392 is least of their problems. You worry about running only after you can crawl. When I explained to one of my iranian friend he was like OMG why is niac doing this. I hope he speaks to the right folks and tell them how they are barking at the wrong tree.

      Incidentally my teammate from Iran thinks there is no reason why someone should be discriminated based on country of birth. He thinks 392 in fair. An awesome person who is not a hypocrite, which I am really hoping rest of my Iranian brothers will realize!
      Sep 13, 2018
    • Amazon rust
      Nobody thinks people should be discriminated against based on country of birth but that doesn't make hr392 any less of a dumpster fire.

      You guys use this over the top bullshit to try and defend this absolutely shitty bill.

      "Can you see my as human", "exploited", "indentured labor", "discriminated against".

      What a load of bullshit. The problems relate the the amount of fraud and abuse from India, over jobs that are among the highest paid in the country. No I'm not saying all Indians are like that and in fact in my company they are mostly great but you also better not be denying that the India queue is full because of abuse of the i140/h1b loophole exploited by Indians.

      In any case the solution isn't hr392, that is just taking a problem caused and experienced by Indians and inflicting it on all people. We need to fix the root of the problem. Not spread the problem around.

      The root of the problem is that every year more i140s are approved than i485. Solution is to have proportional to population (ie fair) country caps on i140 applications and no caps on i485. Then there won't be any waiting queue. You either have an in process application or you go home at the end of you temporary visa.

      That would fix it.
      Sep 13, 2018
    • New Egypt80
      There is no use trying to reason with this guy because he'll either talk about his Iranian friend on F1 (how is that relevant), say his non-Indian friends support this bill (either they are lying or he is) or say it's not fair that he is stuck in a backlog (yet wants a bill that when passed, will put everyone in a backlog).

      The goal here is to transfer inefficient bureaucracy to everyone. That should not be the goal. The root cause of the backlogs is not country caps but they have hijacked the conversation and made it all about country caps.

      Country caps were never designed to be hit, therefore if you have a cap on something but that cap is never met, the cap becomes irrelevant.
      Therefore the whole argument that skilled visas should not be subject to diversity would not be an issue if the caps functioned as expected I.e never get maxed out.

      Yes, it sucks to be in a queue that doesn't seem to move but the solution should not be to eye other queues but to fix the issue of the one queue not moving.

      Before 2007, all countries had a backlog, India, Rest of the World, all!
      Yet after 2008 the backlog of the rest of the world cleared up but that of India kept on building, why?
      Currently, India gets more green cards then any country. Infact, if you add up the green cards issued to European and African countries, the number is still smaller than that of India.

      This is something tactically not mentioned by proponents of this bill. The numbers don't add up, and that's the root cause.. Not country caps.
      One country gets the lion share of the green cards and is still backlogged so they complain that they want all the green cards. Even if they get all the green cards, they will still be backlogged.
      Why not talk about that, instead of hr 392. Hr 392 does not fix this problem.
      Sep 13, 2018
  • Cisco GoneSummr
    We r moving to Canada next Jan
    Sep 11, 2018 6
    • Cisco GoneSummr
      Took 3 months from the day of application till all is done
      Sep 11, 2018
    • Visa / Eng (.)(.)
      @Intel. We are moving to Canada later this year. Use this tool: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp .... You need a score of >440 to get in. It costs 1.5-2.5k usd if I remember correctly. Everything is straight forward
      Sep 11, 2018
    • Intel Jjjhhgggbb
      OP
      Thank you very much ! Great to get valuable inputs on this forum. Did you all have to move jobs as well ? Or was it just a location change for the same job ?
      Sep 11, 2018
    • Cisco GoneSummr
      For jobs u need SIN
      Sep 11, 2018
    • Visa / Eng (.)(.)
      I’m quitting and moving. Sure hope I’m right in trusting my skills and abilities this much. I do have some decent liquid savings
      Sep 11, 2018
  • New / Eng indiann
    please state clearly who do you blame .
    why you buy house on temp visa ?
    Sep 11, 2018 5
    • Intel Jjjhhgggbb
      OP
      As I mentioned earlier , we make certain bets on our future based on historical data. In this case , many now have to think of other options.
      Sep 11, 2018
    • New / Biz Dev
      Bearygreen

      New Biz Dev

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    • LinkedIn Chill!
      Have you ever heard the phrase ‘past performance is not a guarantee for future..’.

      Change your attitude, educate yourself about your greencard queue and serious downsides of staying in H1b forever and plan your next move.
      Sep 11, 2018
    • LeanTaaS desi-giri
      @Chill! - or as we say, NextPlay :)
      Sep 11, 2018
    • New / Eng indiann
      @op brilliant plan ,do now ,think later .
      Sep 11, 2018
  • Options include: Canada, Australia, NZ
    Sep 11, 2018 3
    • Apple / Eng AppleK
      And most of EU if you’re open to new languages
      Sep 11, 2018
    • IBM / QA joTX86
      AppleK, what countries in EU have favorable immigration policies? I don't know how hard it would be to pick French or German, but if the journey isn't as rough as it is in the US, might be up worth an attempt
      Sep 11, 2018
    • New gigM8
      Germany is the best country to immigrate. German easiest to learn. Just go there and talk to people. Very approachable.
      Sep 11, 2018
  • Amazon rust
    You would have to have been living under a rock not to know about the greencard queue. Yet you came and took the job.

    And now you complain.
    Sep 11, 2018 0
  • Apple / Design
    kOsL80

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    kOsL80more
    Go back to your home country and live like a king..!!! Or suffer here as a slave..!
    Sep 11, 2018 0
  • Google skillet
    Hola op! What have you done to fix your problem? Have you ever donated to help fix this issue? There is a bill hr 392. Do you know anything about it?
    Sep 11, 2018 0
  • New / Biz Dev
    Bearygreen

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    Bearygreenmore
    You can always use your kids as anchor babies
    Sep 11, 2018 0
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    Bearygreen

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    Trump said too bad
    Sep 11, 2018 0
  • Rockwell Collins cscY72
    What is your priority date for EB2?
    Sep 11, 2018 0