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Grinding leetcode necessary?

New jxAa11
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I see lots of people saying you NEED to grind leetcode to get a job. That they spent 100s of hours studying to ace interviews.

This sounds absurd. I've never done it and I also have yet to 'fail' an onsite. I think you just be affable, talk through your process and do some problem solving. When I interview people I actually kinda hate when the problem is easy/seems memorized.

Anyways what do you think? Is it needed? Maybe I'm just an asshole who got lucky?

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  • New / Eng
    CnfusdSprm

    NewEng

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    CnfusdSprmmore
    Need leetcode to get in a FAANGMDU
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    • New jxAa11
      OP
      Disagree about necessity. I got in without it. Okay I did 4 problems, but that's it. Maybe it's good for most people? I don't think I'm special or great though in any way.
      7d
    • New / Eng
      CnfusdSprm

      NewEng

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      CnfusdSprmmore
      Which one
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    • New / EngMSFT_fte
      You got easy problems or got lucky.
      7d
    • New jxAa11
      OP
      Google. I'm totally open to having gotten lucky everytime I've interviewed.

      Maybe I'm just an asshole whose good at leetcode style problems without 'grinding'
      7d
    • New / Eng
      CnfusdSprm

      NewEng

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      CnfusdSprmmore
      Ok, good for you . Now STFU and come back with a Google username
      7d
    • New / EngEjDf82
      What’s the D in this acronym? Dell? Deloitte? Del Taco?!
      7d
    • New / Eng
      CnfusdSprm

      NewEng

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      Dropbox
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    • New / EngEjDf82
      Oh I see
      7d
    • Unity Que?
      Doritos
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  • Vertivco / R&D
    Warp Zone!

    VertivcoR&D

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    Doesn't matter. If you're not from the CORRECT part of the country or world, and don't have the most elite credentials, then it doesn't matter how fast or thorough your problem-solving and algorithmic skills are, nor your communication, nor your ability to lead a team to success.

    It's like throwing yourself onto a wall that's painted as an entrance window with a small wall at the bottom. Then the people on the inside will upon up another wall on the other side of the building if you are one of Their people.
    7d2
    • Microsoft nyxnyxnyx1
      Lol what are you saying dude. This is bullshit.
      7d
    • Amazon / Eng
      buttcake

      AmazonEng

      BIO
      Who wants to be my business partner?
      buttcakemore
      I smell vertigo.
      7d
  • Gusto Aaxgrcc
    You’re not going to magically pass a dynamic programming question by “doing some problem solving”
    7d0
  • Microsoft cout<<
    The last interview I failed wasn’t the coding (which was easier than I expected from blind). It was not remembering the best stories for the “tell me about a time <oddly specific situation>”
    I wish I had spent more time reflecting and practicing that part.
    7d4
    • PyLadies iQea15
      Interesting.. thanks for sharing. Did you get feedback about your answers to those behavioral questions?
      7d
    • Microsoft cout<<
      Not really. The recruiter just said I did well on the coding and really well on system design then hand wavy vague feedback and to interview again.

      But I knew were I fumbled and had a hard time finding the right story. And the days after the right ones kept coming to mind.
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    • PyLadies iQea15
      That sucks. At least now you have good ones for next time!
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    • Microsoft cout<<
      Yea, I was bummed. Haven’t reached out to get any other interviews. Debating if I should. I’m in a good spot and it’s easy to move around Microsoft.
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  • I don't think popping a memorized solution should get anybody anywhere. When I have done that, they keep adjusting the problem until I get stuck and have to problem solve anyways.

    Just do a ton of programming either at your current job or at home. Have good examples that aren't hypothetical, ideally ones from you current job. Understand popular algorithm techniques and data structures.

    Get in that interview and let your intuition run wild and free. Communicate like with a coworker problem solving together.
    7d2
    • Facebook Backdoor
      In typical jobs, there’s little algorithmic coding involved
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    • New jxAa11
      OP
      Yeah this is my general interview strategy
      6d
  • Micro Focus / Eng5’6” Ruski
    The problem is that even unknown or shit tier companies are asking difficult problems and expecting flawless solutions.
    7d1
    • Vertivco / R&D
      Warp Zone!

      VertivcoR&D

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      Exactly. Then it's another dang chicken & egg game where those who already made it will get into the shite tier, and those who need it are barred.
      7d
  • Visa shaolin
    Leetcode for Life.
    7d0
  • Twitter / Eng
    TWT

    TwitterEng

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    OP is an a^^hole who’s either in a 💩 company, trolling or a new grad that got lucky with easy questions
    7d0
  • New stuY17
    You do not need to but it's recommended. I successfully interviewed at Google and Amazon recently for Senior Staff and Principal positions respectively and did not grind, however, you may get caught off guard and one no means you tanked.
    7d0
  • Facebook Whateverrs
    It helped me get into fb. I hadn't done much leetcoding before fb, and got jobs, mostly in smaller companies. Doing it was definitely more than worth it. You don't "need" lc to get a job but the impact on TC makes it a great investment.
    7d0

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