H1-b (new, amendment, transfer) - Odds of Denial for Final H1b Decisions

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deeprocker

NewEng

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BS in Robotics Eng (US), MS in Data Science (US Ivy League)
deeprockermore
Feb 28 21 Comments

Hi Guys,

First off, for those who did not read my update on the other post, the published data is only for case decisions of the LCA stage of the process - so can't use those. After some research, the best thing I got is a published report by the top 30 employers for H1b Case decision by USCIS (this should be the final H1b statistics). Nevertheless, I reached out to USCIS for the full dataset, meanwhile, for those who need this, please see below:

FYI: I don't have the raw data so I can't see what is excluded/included (E.g. not sure if USCIS included withdrawals in this calculation or full-time only?) one thing for sure that they did not specifically filter for H1b transfer cases. % of Denied in 2018 and sample size.

- Cognizant Tech Solutions: 31.93% - 13,584
- Tata Consultancy: 17.79% - 10,656
- Infosys Limited: 26.24% - 8,088
- Deloitte Consulting llp: 24.77% - 6,362
- Capgemini America: 40.21% - 4,912
- Microsoft Corporation: 1.48% - 4,519
- Amazon Com Services: 1.52% - 4,460
- Wipro Limited: 17.78% - 3,831
- Accenture Llp: 16.83% - 3,630
- Apple Inc: 1.22% - 3,123
- Hcl America Inc: 20.93% - 2,910
- Tech Mahindra Americas Inc: 17.51% - 2,861
- Ernst&Young : 8.94% - 2,719
- Google Inc: 0.86% - 2,675
- Jpmorgan Chase&Co: 2.74% - 2,260
- Intel Corporation: 1.29% - 2,164
- Facebook Inc: 0.81% - 2,089
- Ibm India Private Limited: 17.74% - 1,962
- Cisco Systems Inc: 2.42% - 1,691
- Larsen & Toubro Infotech Limited: 12.95% - 1,653
- L&T Technology Services Ltd: 11.59% - 1,311
- Mphasis Corporation: 15.40% - 1,286
- Syntel Inc: 17.42% - 1,257
- Wal-Mart Associates: 6.27% - 1,117
- Pricewaterhousecoopers Advisory: 21.90% - 1,105
- Ibm Corporation: 7.82% - 1,100
- MIndtree Limited: 17.05% - 1,097
- Amazon Corporate Llc: 4.31% - 1,020
- Cummins inc: 3.84% - 964
- Randstad Technologies Lp: 4.55% - 945

Published Link: https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/Resources/Reports%20and%20Studies/Immigration%20Forms%20Data/BAHA/Top-30-H-1B-Employer-Table-FY-2018.pdf

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TOP 21 Comments
  • eBay uuqaw
    Top 5 companies deservs it. They are the biggest abusers of the system.
    Feb 280
  • Facebook acurious
    Just to be clear are this H1B selects in lottery ? Or just applications.
    In either case top 3 are making fair chance look worse.if we can get data about how many of them have been actually used , I mean which of the accepted H1bs have been used for work tenure that would help to flag real misuse of lottery.
    Feb 283
    • New / Eng
      deeprocker

      NewEng

      BIO
      BS in Robotics Eng (US), MS in Data Science (US Ivy League)
      deeprockermore
      OP
      USCIS does not start evaluating applications unless the person gets the lottery (for new applications) - so this excludes all these unlucky people - my goal is to get the raw data and exclude all new h1b applications, I just want to see transfer odds so that people can safely join on receipt
      Feb 28
    • Facebook acurious
      Ohh great. Thanks for this effort.
      Also was wondering if there is any way that can check previous eveluated and granted one's which have been actually used for work. I ask this because few of my friends have been selected and granted but could never make it to use it or they use it just for few months. This is sheer waste for an opportunity for some one who is having full time presence here.
      Feb 28
    • New / Eng
      deeprocker

      NewEng

      BIO
      BS in Robotics Eng (US), MS in Data Science (US Ivy League)
      deeprockermore
      OP
      I think if you leave the country and come back after couple of years - you 'll have right to use the remaining portion of H1b and do not need to enter new lottery
      Feb 28
  • HP / MgmtPLNS47
    Thanks for sharing! I am waiting and NOT joining on receipt. It is to FAANG. I dont like this wait but looks like this is the only sane thing to do. What do you guys think? Better to just join on receipt?
    Feb 282
    • New / Eng
      deeprocker

      NewEng

      BIO
      BS in Robotics Eng (US), MS in Data Science (US Ivy League)
      deeprockermore
      OP
      I am most likely joining on receipt - for Google, it is 0.86% chance and I think I will take it - processing times now show 9.5 m to 12.5 m for CA center
      Also if it is to FAANG, they got other locations which you can work from temporarily while they refile/appeal in case of denial

      https://egov.uscis.gov/processing-times
      Feb 28
    • Google wFatDuck2
      I would too , easily move to different locations and come back when/if things improve
      Feb 28
  • HP / MgmtPLNS47
    Is there any way we can ask USCIS a date for date? Meaning when they expect to open up premium processing for 2019 applications or when they plan to process them even in regular processing? Keeping silent without wven giving date for date is being very frustrating. I saw one blind post that said he heard back on 2019 jan application just via regular processing last week. I am also Jan but I did not hear. Super con fusing
    Mar 61
    • Nordstrom
      Suckerburg

      Nordstrom

      BIO
      I'm me😂
      Suckerburgmore
      I believe that you know about opening the Premium Processing for ALL H1B from March 12.
      Mar 19
  • Google wFatDuck2
    Awesome data!
    Feb 280
  • Microsoft
    ToopyToo

    Microsoft

    PRE
    Amazon
    ToopyToomore
    Hey Deeprocker - this is very helpful. I am also considering joining FB on receipt though BAL lawyers are advising against it. Why do you think it is important to get he filter for transfers? Vs new application? It appears to me that an H1 transfer is getting the same treatment as a new application - hence overall rejection rate is good. No? What would be nice to see is rejection rate by company and by job code - any chance you can get hold of that data?
    Mar 62
    • New / Eng
      deeprocker

      NewEng

      BIO
      BS in Robotics Eng (US), MS in Data Science (US Ivy League)
      deeprockermore
      OP
      That is strange my bal lawyer did not see any problem with me joining on receipt, maybe your case is special? Whats your background and positions?
      Mar 6
    • Microsoft
      ToopyToo

      Microsoft

      PRE
      Amazon
      ToopyToomore
      It is a PM position. I am non CS engineering UG with an MBA. Currently not a Pm but was earlier a Pm with Amazon. They say that non CS raises risk. That said I think issue is the PM role itself since it tends to be generic. I’m still going to join on receipt I think as I like the position and don’t want to find another team 6-10 months later. Have to find how to mitigate the risk.
      Mar 6
  • Microsoft however
    why there are 2 amazon in the list?
    Feb 282
    • New / Eng
      deeprocker

      NewEng

      BIO
      BS in Robotics Eng (US), MS in Data Science (US Ivy League)
      deeprockermore
      OP
      They are legally separate entity - i think Amazon has about 30 different legal names in the dataset
      Feb 28
    • Equifax
      flstercluk

      Equifax

      PRE
      Chase Paymentech
      flsterclukmore
      Amazon retail, AWS are different entities for legal purposes. I see their credit reports all the time.

      Aws employees have better credit scores.
      Feb 28
  • Cerner 10 x Eng?
    Thanks for the post.

    Can you please post the % of denials for Mastercard. Thanks a lot
    Mar 11
    • New / Eng
      deeprocker

      NewEng

      BIO
      BS in Robotics Eng (US), MS in Data Science (US Ivy League)
      deeprockermore
      OP
      Unfortunately, that is the only data I have - I pulled those from the published report, not from the raw data. I emailed for the data but they pretty much ignored me
      Mar 1
  • New / Eng
    deeprocker

    NewEng

    BIO
    BS in Robotics Eng (US), MS in Data Science (US Ivy League)
    deeprockermore
    OP
    I dont think rejection rates are same for new vs transfer. For transfer i d assume its lower since u already proved once that u are qualified worker but again i dk for sure. I asked for raw data last week and noone replied to me at uscis
    Mar 60
  • Microsoft / Engh1bReceipt
    Awesome. Let us know if you get the full dataset from uscis
    Feb 280

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