H1B - bill introduced to ax per country green card limit

Cloudera / Eng80t3n9
Feb 9 25 Comments

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  • Microsoft Dr. Root
    Dude, you must be new. These things come and go every year. Relax, have some Bourbon. We're all in the same sinking ship for the next 2 decades 🥃
    Feb 93
    • Cloudera / Eng80t3n9
      OP
      Totally agree... I have seen this happening from 2011. When first time bill was introduced. 😆😆
      Just thought I should post this and enjoy comments 😜
      Feb 9
    • Amazon heyyeh
      Though it's backed by Kamala Harris this time who is a plausible 2020 Democrat Presidential candidate.
      Feb 9
    • Cloudera / Eng80t3n9
      OP
      This is introduced to have more things to discuss so that they won’t get time to talk about wall. All politics
      Feb 9
  • Amazon heyyeh
    My concern is that this only makes things worse without some solution to the consulting shops spamming.

    The India queue is only long because of those body shop that fill the queue with 3rd rate people. If only the Indians capable of getting into good companies were in the queue it would actually be not so bad already.

    While the cap is unfair it's also incidentally protecting the system from the abusive practices by the body shops.

    I think it's better to fix that problem first and that this bill is actually a step backwards until then.
    Feb 91
    • Cloudera / Eng80t3n9
      OP
      Yup. Politicians are just trying to show they want to do something about legal immigration. But their priority is illegal immigration.

      If this bill becomes law then it hurts talented people from small countries (population wise) and they wait forever.

      This is totally against diversity we need in engineering. (At least)
      Feb 9
  • Walmart.com s2a7
    That 100+ year of wait time for Indians is an insult. Why give a f*ck for USofA? The startup scene in India is heating up. Why not move back?
    Feb 910
    • Amazon heyyeh
      It's not an insult. It's the result of a business strategy by Indian companies with the support of the Indian government.

      They set up a whole consulting industry as an intentional, government sponsored initiative with systems designed to pump out as many h1b/i140 combos as possible including many low quality feeder schools that got accredited by bribes, and a whole bunch of government incentives and other policies designed to expand these body shops.

      Before the the India queue was like China's, a couple years but not a big deal. It was after the Indian government cranked up this body shop industry from around 2007 that is really started getting bad.

      Indians could easily fix this themselves by outlawing this crap back in India but they don't want to. They voted for this bullshit and they are proud of it but they don't connect the dots to the greencard queue.

      Then they come here and whine that it's unfair. Pathological.
      Feb 9
    • I agree that removing cap will spread the problem to other countries. But falsely blaming all the Indians is simply not cool.
      Feb 10
    • Amazon heyyeh
      Indians ARE to blame. It's a national policy of India to abuse the US visa system and every single Indian voter shares responsibility for that national policy.

      Other nations don't have a government sponsored national policy to create schools and business to export workers abroad and that's why other nations don't have a 100 year queue.

      The solution to this problem is in India and it's up to Indian voters like you to elect an Indian govt that will fix this Indian problem.

      The country cap is doing its job and protecting the United States from an abusive policy of a foreign government.
      Feb 10
    • Lol, are you for real ?

      What evidence do you have to back up your claim ?

      You flat out making things up. You seem like a troll or an ignorant hater. Not wasting anymore time here.
      Feb 10
    • Amazon heyyeh
      What evidence that India made it a national priority to build up the consulting companies?

      Really?
      Feb 10
    • Walmart.com s2a7
      @heyyeh your arguments lack logic. The US Visa system legally allows whatever Indian consultancy firms are doing; so either it's the US Visa system that wants to be abused or the abuse is only in your head. Don't forget, whatever be the quality of the talent that the Indian outsourcers bring in, and I agree it's mostly mediocre, it's the US clients who suck up to it; it's them who sponsor their green cards. As much as I would like that to change asap, it seems to make business sense for the US employers and contributes to India's prosperity. It's not India's fault that she has so many "sponsorable" employees. The sad part is that the bright(er), more talented Indians are getting buried under the sheer weight of their more abundant but lesser talented brethren.
      Feb 16
    • Amazon heyyeh
      "legally allows" does not change the fact (!) that India created a whole industry around the h1b program, and that this industry is the reason why the system has been flooded with Indians.

      You can say US clients pay for it and that's true. You can say it's legally allowed, which is true, but maybe shouldn't be.

      You can't say that the backlog isn't the result of India's own state policies and therefore cannot say it isn't India's fault.

      It is in fact the direct result of India's economic policies of basing its economy around the h1b program.

      That is why you have a 100 year wait for a greencard: because your country has this industry that floods the system.

      Is really pretty undeniable.
      Feb 16
    • Walmart.com s2a7
      If you think the third largest economy in the world by PPP is based on H1b, I seriously doubt your quant skills and mental fitness. Of the 10 Trillion GDP by PPP, only 99 billion is from IT export. As far as creating industry around h1b is concerned, India is damn right in doing so, because it can do so.
      Feb 17
    • Facebook highfive
      @heyyeh is an ignorant racist who hates India for some reason. He is not aware of the facts, he’s just sitting here making things up about India and posting hateful comments.

      Go read some newspaper, and know about the reality.
      IT is only 7% of India’s GDP.

      @s2a7 He posted these hateful comments in another thread and i was so tired of explaining him.

      It’s easier to teach a dog computer science than it is to explain something to @heyyeh, he is just so ...
      Feb 17
    • Amazon heyyeh
      @highfive, you are pathetic, you keep on calling me names but you don't have a single point you actually dispute. Your posts add nothing to the discussion.

      You may not LIKE the fact that the Indian consulting companies caused this, but that doesn't entitle you to insult people.

      You have issues.
      Feb 17
  • Vertivco / Eng
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    VertivcoEng

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    Learn how to spell properly. Then we will take this bill seriously.
    Feb 92
    • Homeaway ppMg64
      What the axe are you talking about?
      Feb 9
    • New / Biz Dev
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      It's hoaxed!
      Feb 10
  • Oath / MgmtAtinlay
    Learn how to search posts. Then we will take this bill seriously.
    Feb 94
    • Cloudera / Eng80t3n9
      OP
      How does it matter if you take seriously or not
      Feb 9
    • Oath / MgmtAtinlay
      I don’t “take seriously”
      Feb 9
    • Cloudera / Eng80t3n9
      OP
      I guess you are in wrong profession. Try teaching 😄😄😅😅
      Feb 9
    • Oath / MgmtAtinlay
      Try learning
      Feb 9

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