HR 1044

Jul 10 60 Comments

Will it slow down GC card process for folks coming from other countries other than China and India ?

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  • Google 武当派
    It slows down GC applicants who are born in mainland China too, because the other country’s PD backlog is 10 years long and they have millions of applicants brought by TCS, HCL etc infamous desi outsourcing companies. If this bill gets passed, after 3 years, USCIS will be spending 85% of their bandwidth processing backlog for one single country and the rest of the world have to share the remaining 15% GC quota.
    Jul 10 6
    • Walmart.com 🌲50
      Also it's not the fault of TCS/HCL that they have a profitable and legal model of operating in US, but Huwaei gets banned
      Jul 10
    • Google 武当派
      The problem is, many GC applicants brought to the US by HCL/TCS shouldn’t have been qualified to apply for GC, and there could be thousands or millions of them. When they applied for H1B, there were cases that several subsidiaries of TCS or HCL submitted multiple H1B applications for the same person and the person’s chance for winning the H1B lottery and being able to apply for GC later increased by several times. This was unfair.

      People from other countries never had such “luck” and many of them have already left the US after using up their OPT.
      Jul 10
    • Facebook zevx21
      GC applications are vetted separately.
      Jul 10
    • Walmart.com 🌲50
      @Google - Let USCIS and DoL determine the eligibility and qualification. If US immigration machinery was fine with their GC being filed, who are you and I to complain? Also same company filling through subsidiaries is illegal. Though I know some consultancies actually did that, I highly doubt TCS, a 110 Billion USD company, will do that.
      Jul 10
    • Groupon / Eng sleepy
      It seems like a lot of people already know about who should not get GC. They should run DoL and USCIS.
      Jul 12
  • Walmart.com 🌲50
    It will definitely slow down and that's very fair. There should be only 1 GC queue and GC should be allocated based on the position in the queue. India and China has nothing to do with it. If 140K GC per year is insufficient, all countries should suffer together.
    Jul 10 17
    • Amazon yup!
      Tri Valley, Herguan, ITT, and pretty much anything accredited by ACICS and a bunch of similarly scammy schools in India.
      Jul 10
    • Walmart.com 🌲50
      @Amazon, Tri valley and Herguan are not even accredited. You think there are GC applicants from these colleges waiting in the GC pool? More importantly how do you know these are created by relatives of consultancy firm owners?
      Jul 11
    • Amazon yup!
      Not anymore, after they got caught committing visa fraud.
      Jul 11
    • Walmart.com 🌲50
      Exactly. So you agree that the current GC queue is not fed by these schools, right?
      Jul 11
    • Amazon yup!
      No, their graduates are still in the queue along with tens or hundreds of thousands of equally bad applicants from other terrible schools.
      Jul 11
  • Google YYkR40
    No option to say it will slow down and unfair?
    Jul 10 4
    • Oscar 🐨koala
      Where is the 🍿 option?
      Jul 10
    • Facebook zevx21
      What I do like is it'll at least get every other country to talk about changing it... Instead of just 2 crying about it.

      Too bad it'll never pass.
      Jul 10
    • Microsoft gdsdfss
      Never seen any Chinese complaining about it.
      Jul 11
    • Microsoft nWJN86
      Chinese will be completely fucked up by this bill. Complaints are everywhere except on Blind, whose majority is the only people that will benefit from this selfish bill and like to delete all anti-1044 posts!
      Jul 14
  • Google gjTu82
    Indians will be the only winner of the bill. All other countries are victims.
    Jul 11 2
    • Amazon yup!
      Even among Indians it primarily benefits the predatory consulting companies which have developed systems to dominate the program.
      Jul 11
    • Exer Urgent Care dsp0703
      Correct. This is a giveaway to lower skilled Indian workers. Enough! Trump needs to veto.
      Jul 11
  • Credit Karma NicoleUK
    For those who say Indians will not qualify under merit based, Canada has merit based and look at the facts here -
    https://www.businesstoday.in/current/policy/indians-acquiring-permanent-residency-in-canada-spike-in-2018/story/362873.html

    Gone are the days when people used to generalize China = cheap labor and India = consulting body shops. Time have changed.
    Generalizing Indians don't have skill is nothing but foolish else we won't get 50% PR in Canada in merit based system & won't have many CEOs in US from Indian origin. Do you think companies like FAANG would hire crap employees? Look at their interviews on Blind! Regarding consulting company, agree that they misused but isn't that job of USCIS and DOL to catch them? It's not a job of people of that country to catch such people. Why world's most advanced country make a system that can be gamed & USCIS, DOL does nothing about it and then blame entire community for that? Or after all there were no fraud at the level it is being claimed, something to think about?
    P. S - Not supporting bill, in for a merit based system. Just answering to one's who claim Indians don't have merit.
    Also, this is never going to pass so it's useless to discuss bill, but generalized opinion about merits of Indians are skewed negatively for some people by too much hate.
    Jul 10 9
    • Amazon yup!
      The consultants "compete" by being willing to work for less because they come from third world countries, even though they are dumb as a bag of rocks and make too many mistakes.

      The non consultants from India are good.
      Jul 11
    • Walmart.com 🌲50
      @Amazon, I m pretty sure consultants may be "dumb as a bag of rocks" like you describe, but even the worst of them are more intelligent than the average population here. That says a lot.
      Jul 11
    • Amazon yup!
      Actually no they displaced higher paid Americans who did a better job not cost more. These are not the excellent IIT engineers who helped build to tech companies.
      Jul 11
    • Flagged by the community.

    • Walmart.com 🌲50
      @Amazon I also noticed that you feel these consultants are willing to work for less because they come from third world countries. Care to explain ? How is third world country relevant here? How do you explain non-consultants from the same third world country being paid handsomely?
      Jul 11
  • PayPal mao_andre
    The real poll is "Are you Indian?"
    Jul 10 0
  • Yelp bbtea
    It slows down every country including China, only India will get faster.

    Because they will start from the very beginning of India’s queue and then everyone else. So it’ll be only Indian getting green card for next 10+ years. 10 years from single country, that would change the workplace a looooooooot.
    Jul 10 1
    • Amazon yup!
      And in 10 years the wait will be much longer because the number of applicants will continue to exceed the number of visas. It doesn't even solve the basic problem that more i140 are approved every year than i485.
      Jul 10
  • Apple EwfF77
    Walmart dude you know well that how many h1bs are issued for consultancy shops. The system is abused by these (you?) guys. How the hell you justify that people from all countries should suffer together?
    Jul 11 3
    • Walmart.com 🌲50
      Apple dude, please learn to reason better. H-1B is not the only source feeding GC queue. There's L-1 and other visas as well, which are unlimited in number. Even if H1B forms a large percentage of the queue, Unlike H-1B, each GC in EB2 and 3 category, is filed only after a lengthy interview process aimed at filling the vacancy with an American citizen. The process moves forward only when no American citizens were found. Also, ever heard of PERM audit? If no, then please shut up, get your head out of your ass, and stop crying about abusing the system.
      Jul 11
    • EPAM Systems ExplodingBanana
      Walmart consultant, who are you trying to convince, yourself or us?
      Jul 11
    • Walmart.com 🌲50
      EPAM systems friend, now that all your previous posts here have been flagged by the community, do you think I still need to waste time convincing you?
      Jul 11
  • Verizon Media / Eng svsjks
    There are 195 UN countries. Trying to favor 1 country at the cost of 194 countries does not look good.
    Jul 11 0
  • Amazon yup!
    Where is "yes it slows it down and this is unfair"
    Jul 10 0
  • Exer Urgent Care dsp0703
    Hope Trump vetoes this horrendous bill which puts foreign workers ahead of Americans.
    Jul 11 0
  • Thumbtack lmEM47
    If it passed, good luck and goodbye America
    Jul 10 0
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    All other nationality need to wait for their GC for almost 10 years and I don’t know why Democratic Party consider as it is fair. Give EAD instead then wait .
    Jul 10 0
  • Google / Eng neow
    This is a well phrased and unbiased poll. My ass.
    Jul 10 0
  • Google / Eng yogi bear
    Such a dumb poll
    Jul 11 0
  • Adobe Wakamoto
    It slow down GC and it is unfair
    Jul 12 0
  • Flagged by the community.

  • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
    Poll
    1. Yes but no
    2. No.
    Jul 11 0

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