Hacking the Immigration System

New KHtR02
Nov 5 46 Comments

There's so many posts here arguing and complaining about the visa process and the immigration system in general. Most of us had the misfortune of being born in India and being subjected to long wait times. We need to take control of our lives and stop depending on the mercy of a senator or a visa officer. Here are the steps to alleviate your suffering.

Step 1 : Try your best to get an H1B. Exhaust all your attempts ( during OPT , CPT etc... ). When your on H1B, put constant pressure on your employer to do PERM and I-140. If you can't get a H1B despite multiple attempts, work for a smaller consultancy ( there are tons of them ) and make sure they directly apply for your I-140. Stop believing this non sense that you can never get a tourist visa after you get an I-140. You do not show any immigrant intent for just simply getting an I-140. Forget about the category ( EB2 or EB3 )as it is irrelevant to you. Just get the approved I-140.

Step 2 : While you are going through Step 1 , apply for Canada Express Entry. This process takes 6 months to 1 year. Complete your landing process and get the PR card. When your in the US, apply for mortgages. Banks will give you mortgages regardless of your immigration status. Buy 1 or 2 condos / townhouses and leave them for rent. Make sure you are able to get a positive cash flow with the rent after accounting for the property management company. Invest in stocks / cryptos. All of this is perfectly legal when your on F1 , OPT , CPT , H1B , H4 or any other visa. Build your sources of passive income and investment portfolio. Stay as long as you want in Step 2. Stay until you reach your financial goals. Fall in love. Get Married. Have an American baby. Don't worry about immigration. This is the step when you will have maximum disposable income.

Step 3 : Move to Canada as a permanent resident. Try keeping your US job if they will let you work from home with occasional travel. If you want to make more money in Canada, self incorporate and become an independent contractor. I personally charged 70$ per hour for my first consulting gig in a small Canadian city. If you can avoid living in GTA or GVA , consider yourself extremely lucky. The cost of living is very low in smaller Canadian cities. Live in a border town ( Abbotsford , Windsor , St Catherines etc... ). Keep your H1B and work across the border. If you get a Canadian job , then get yourself a B1/B2 visa. The visa officer this time will be friendly and nice to you. Your approved I-140 will NOT be used against you. You will not have any flutters in your stomach when you stand in line. Border control will literally take 10 seconds. Go to the USA every weekend for shopping. You will not miss a thing. Save and invest aggressively in Canada. Buy properties and leave them for rent. Student rental properties are cash cows in Canada. International students are pouring in here and you can capitalize on that. You will already be getting some passive income from your investment properties in the USA as well. Take care of your parents. Bring them on a super visa. Keep them for several years at once. Apply for their PRs ( slots open in January every year. This wont last forever apply soon !! ). Fall in love. Have a Canadian baby. You will have less disposable income than Step 2. But you can compensate by doing side hustles and such.

Step 4 : Complete 3 years in Step 3. Apply for your Canadian citizenship. Takes about 9 months. Get your Canadian passport. Now you are a Canadian citizen with an approved I-140.

Step 5 : Reclaim your American dream. You are now free to enter the US visa free. Border control will be nice and friendly. Apply for jobs and interview aggressively. You do not have to go through H1 lottery any more since you have an approved I-140. You do not need a H1b visa stamp since you have a Canadian passport. All you need is an approved I-797 and you can enter the USA with your Canadian passport and work. You can also take the TN route , but this is a little risky and highly discretionary by the CBP officer. None the less , your options for working in the US have multiplied just by virtue of you being a Canadian citizen. Your properties in both countries are now worth much more and bringing you a lot of passive income. If your H1B renewal fails , go back to Canada and try again. Remember that you don't need a visa anymore to visit the US for any purpose.

Step 6 : Wait for your I-140 date to become current ( 15 years , 20 years , who cares ?? ). Apply for consular processing. Go to the US Consulate in Montreal and give your interview. This is way faster than applying for an adjustment of status I-485. These interviews typically can't go wrong. Get your case approved.

Step 7 : Enter the USA as a permanent resident and live happily ever after.

Note that Step 6 and Step 7 are not guaranteed. Many people find happiness in Step 4 or Step 5 and live happily ever after.

Personally I am in Step 3. One more year to go for my citizenship :D

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TOP 46 Comments
  • Apple KGHP41
    Nice. Except the wait for Indians in EB2/3 is 70-100 years.
    Nov 5 3
    • Northrop Grumman / Eng Lambda2
      Ok, are you guys exaggerating with these numbers? You’re like the 5th person this week posting it will take several decades.

      Starting to think this is a thing
      Nov 5
    • Intel loper
      Not an exaggeration, an underestimate if anything. Most people getting in line for EB2/3 today will get LPRs when their US born kids turn 21 and sponsor them
      Nov 5
    • New KHtR02
      OP
      That's why I advise people to have a US born baby in Step 2
      Nov 5
  • Birthright citizenship must be cancelled.
    Nov 5 4
    • Fastmail / Mgmt mi gente
      I disagree with this. Anyone born in any country should automatically acquire the citizenship of that country. No one controls the time and place of their birth, so it makes no sense to not consider a person a citizenship of the land within the boundaries of which the individual takes birth. What should be addressed, however, is to not let individuals enter a country illegally (in this case the parents) to begin with
      Nov 5
    • It makes no sense for tourists and illegals to grant their child citizenship by just having a baby there. A newly born baby must have same dependent status as one that came to the country with their parents.

      Birthright citizenship is a legacy of the age of slavery not serving any purpose in a modern world. Other countries don’t do that.
      Nov 5
    • Uber dreamyI
      Not going to happen anytime soon. Other countries also do that unfortunately, especially in Western Hemisphere.
      Nov 5
    • Amazon Gorilla, don't act like one! 😂
      Nov 6
  • Reliable Software / Eng Sugoidesu
    Instead of this, pin hopes on swades movement. Go back home and build something. Especially if you are from India. India is at a place where China was few decades ago. With proper investment you will live way way way better life doing meaningful things in india or your home country than hopping in this ocean of uncertainty between two countries and working for same companies on same old CRUD applications
    Nov 5 0
  • Intel loper
    Assuming everything stays constant, which it won't. This plan relies on everything going perfectly. Anything going off and everything comes crashing down.

    Let's say Canada goes the UK way for international students. You're now left holding subpar properties in Canada. Also, buying rental properties in the US today that are cash flow positive from day 1 - not gonna happen.
    Nov 5 6
    • Amazon / Eng SEAFreeze
      I hope we aren't giving visas and citizenship to people who just want to take advantage of our population and drive up the cost of living / housing for citizens here. We have enough of an issue with that by Americans, we don't need to bring in people to make matters worse for our country.

      I'm all for immigration if you're actually going to stay, contribute to the culture, take care of other Americans and only buy a home you plan on living in forever, otherwise sell it when you move. Don't move here just to exploit Americans
      Nov 5
    • Facebook / Eng pookyh
      That’s clearly the plan in this post though.
      Nov 7
    • Google Harhar
      @Amazon, people will move wherever they want to if they feel it improves their lives. Your opinion and hopes on the matter are (sorry to be harsh) irrelevant.
      Nov 8
    • Amazon / Eng SEAFreeze
      They can move here just don't make shit worse for people who live here
      Nov 8
    • Google Harhar
      People largely don't care about the repercussions for the local people when they move there. And that's completely fair. It's all about what's best for them and their families. It will always be this way. That's life. Just ask the Native Americans. 🙂

      If things get worse for you, tough shit man.
      Nov 8
  • Bloomberg pradeeeeep
    lmao pretty sure this guy is trolling but this is exactly why the GC quota needs to be in place to keep these idiots out of my country 😂😂
    Nov 5 1
    • Fastmail / Mgmt mi gente
      Yes, Pradeep
      Nov 5
  • Uber dreamyI
    Cool ... also you can get an Indian passport with place of birth in Nepal. That’d make it easier.
    Nov 5 2
    • Qualcomm / Eng dynasty001
      Ssshhhhhhh
      Nov 5
    • Google engg1
      Huh? Really? But you can't do it once USCIS has your biometrics.
      5d
  • VMware zlfS37
    Am I wrong in saying that the Canadian citizenship will not give us any additional advantage because all it matters is the country where we are born??
    Nov 5 5
    • Apple KGHP41
      You can come and work on TN. Plus visa free travel.
      Nov 5
    • New KHtR02
      OP
      It will not give you any advantage in terms of priority date ( green card ). However the Canadian passport gives you entry into the USA visa free. This means that you can enter the country without a H1b stamp. No more fears of being stuck in India or consular processing or pink slips or any of that nonsense.
      Nov 5
    • VMware zlfS37
      Well, I will not betray my country and become a Canadian citizen just for that!
      Nov 5
    • Apple KGHP41
      Ok don’t. Nobody’s forcing you.
      Nov 5
    • EA ☕️
      I bet in couple of years TN visa would be changed to apply from consulate only, border people wont be able to handle so many TNs
      Nov 8
  • Apple WOZ19
    Marry an American woman or man. Or, someone from another nation, and get a green card through cross-charge-ability. Not only will you be free of the H1b bond, but you will enrich and diversify your own self and contribute to a post-national future.
    Nov 6 0
  • Microsoft trbebdj
    It is not a misfortune when you are born from a relatively wealthy parents and your body is healthy enough to get through the school system. Your country gave you an opportunity to study in CS and get a job in this field easily. That is not the case for others. You have a great network as lots of your Indian friends will go to work in US companies.

    Think about Chinese who need to put more effort for learning English and only 1/7 of workers is in this field in US despite the same population as India. That is despite many more students in CS than Indians. It means Indians have easier way of getting a job in US. Compare that to someone from Syria or Sudan. Do they get a same chance even if they study hard?
    Nov 5 2
    • Reliable Software / Eng Sugoidesu
      I agree with Syria. But for China at least they have massive companies that go toe to the toe with faang in their country. With talent you could work in China and do amazing things. In india we don't have any of our homegrown product company. All we have are service based companies which were great a decade ago but now we need home grown products before other countries and companies like FAANG gain monopoly and make it hard for anyone to enter
      Nov 5
    • Microsoft trbebdj
      Yup I agree. India has many talented people and it should give an opportunity for them to build a business in India. There are too many talents who move to Us though and it is a chicken and egg problem. The more Indians in US, the poorer chance India will get. It will grow regardless but it could have sped up.
      Nov 5
  • Samsung tipsycode
    Simple 1 step for hot smart indian woman. marry me
    Nov 5 0
  • Fastmail / Mgmt mi gente
    Happily ever after 😂😂. After you're 50😂. Such a beautiful world this is right, just follow the 7 steps and it's so easy to become American, dear Indians😂.
    Nov 5 0
  • Intel loper
    Bettee idea:

    Step 1: get I-140 to lock in PD
    Step 2: put down a cool mil to get your EB5
    Nov 5 3
    • Intel / Eng onerhief
      Can’t port your PD for EB5.
      Nov 5
    • Intel loper
      Good point. My bad
      Nov 5
    • Intel / Eng onerhief
      It only helps with EB1.
      Nov 5
  • CAMP Systems WCep08
    Did you have to go to Canada to appear for on site interviews or were you able to do it from the US? I am in a situation where I can't leave US due to lack of Visa stamping. If I were to pursue Canadian PR, would it be possible to do it entirely from within the US ?
    Nov 7 2
    • Apple KGHP41
      Yes
      Nov 7
    • Workday rockbay
      After your PR application gets approved, you have to do a “landing” in Canada within one year. Then you get the PR. However, the landing can be “soft” i.e. you can come back in a couple of days. After that, to keep the PR you have eventually live in Canada for 2 out of 5 years.
      Nov 9
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    NYfp58more
    Great post, good luck OP!
    Nov 21 0
  • Google Harhar
    Great post, OP. And good luck to you!
    Nov 8 0
  • Workday rockbay
    Thanks for taking the effort for writing this. Cleared up a couple of my misconceptions.
    Nov 6 0
  • Datometry / Eng LangEr
    Refreshing to read something positive in this topic. Thank you!
    Nov 5 0
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