Hating H1b Visa holders

New / Other AuntHilda
Apr 15 131 Comments

Lately, there have been a lot of hate spreading towards H1b Visa holders on Blind. Mainly because of several posts due to H1b application deadline and a few updates.

For starters, I would break H1b Visa holders to two groups.

1] H1b Visa directly with a company (Google, Apple, startups and the like). They hire because of the skill and pay really well.
2) H1b Visa filed by consulting shop (TCS, Infosys and the like). They hire mainly because of cheap wage.

What's your opinion on H1b Visa holders?

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  • Capital One / IT jamb
    Gtfo here and MIGA ... I think it is time for india to grow a pair and show who the boss is.
    Apr 15 15
    • Google / Eng hooli.xyz
      Okay, but that is still the same as AuntHilda’s point. Read my previous post on Israel. I’m sure they also face the same dilemma per individual yet most of them choose to stay despite the much easier path to U.S. green card.

      Are you saying that Indians are just more selfish? That Indians rather “maximize locally” than “maximize globally”?
      Apr 15
    • Intel whodat!
      Not necessarily selfish, India is a lot more diverse(18 official languages) so ‘maximizing globally’ in the Indian context is a complicated affair.. when you are outside you are Indian, when you are in India you are Marathi/Bengali/Tamil..

      also, strong emphasis on affirmative action(we need it) makes it harder to succeed in..

      This is hard to discuss in a comment section..maybe we need to be more United..
      Apr 15
    • Google / Eng hooli.xyz
      That makes a lot of sense. Much harder to work towards a common goal if the citizens have different ethnic backgrounds.

      “United States of India”? 😉
      Apr 15
    • Flagged by the community.

    • Google / Eng hooli.xyz
      @Sauron

      What are you talking about? Israel was founded in 1948.
      Apr 15
    • Microsoft Sauron 👁
      My comment seems to have been flagged.. not sure why, despite stating only a universally known historical fact. I ain't talking about the modern Israel state, rather the same place in which Jewish community claimed to live since 1000 yrs ago. The community was highly hard working, emigrated in search of opportunities, became sophisticated and consequently held the reins of commerce in many countries. The backlash during world war periods upon Jewish community, in several countries, led them regret not having a country if their own. This led to Zionism and modern Israel formation. They now realize the value of having a country of their own and do anything to protect it. That's why you can't compare India and Israel.
      Apr 16
    • Google / Eng hooli.xyz
      “They now realize the value of having a country of their own and do anything to protect it. That's why you can't compare India and Israel.”

      Wait, are you saying Indians don’t value their country as much as Israelites value theirs?
      Apr 16
    • Microsoft Sauron 👁
      Nah! Indians never lost their land and doesn't have a near future threat either. There is a strong leadership that backs their diaspora. So, no such urge as Israelites do.
      Apr 16
    • Google wFatDuck2
      Clearly an immigrant hating his own kind. Well done
      Apr 16
    • It's so easy to make money in the US. Of course immigrants will come here. We're not going anywhere. 🤣
      Apr 16
  • F5 Networks zapzap.
    Abolish the visa. Let the Indians go home and MIGA!

    India is the biggest loser in all this. Entire generation is gone - working for peanuts for another country.
    Apr 15 14
    • Amazon 737max💥
      It's not MIGA, just MIG
      Apr 16
    • F5 Networks zapzap.
      Says the guy whose country got discovered by mistake when someone was searching for India.

      🤣😅😂🤣🤣
      Apr 16
    • Tesla notElonLol
      MiG is a Russian jet fighter 🤣
      Apr 16
    • Amazon 737max💥
      They were searching for China and when they encountered stone age people assumed it was India
      Apr 16
    • Amazon 737max💥
      Indians are still flying those Russian jets, @notElon, one recently got shot down by the Pakistanis.

      Maybe not MIG then, maybe MIOK
      Apr 16
    • F5 Networks zapzap.
      Yes.Yes. You are right.

      History is just some conspiracy theory. Right.
      Apr 16
    • Amazon 737max💥
      It's a fact that were trying to find China. What, Indian schools teaching something different? 😂😂😂

      They were after silk (from China) and spices (from what is now Indonesia).

      And yeah, when they saw stone age savages with bows and arrows living in tents they completely believed they had found India.
      Apr 16
    • Citibank dogmai
      @737max hope you paid attention to history lessons.
      There is a reason why the natives of America are called Indians.
      Columbus accidentally discovered America, he was actually looking for the Great land of India which was already great even before USA was born. Blame it on the Britishers who looted most of the wealth.
      May 3
    • Google uzaname
      They believed they have found Indies, particularly East Indies, which are the islands southeast from Indochina hence the name and later renaming to West Indies. Neither of these is India.
      May 3
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      If India stopped buying any US products and stopped using US apps, like China, we would be able to make millions in India. I say remove all H1Bs from here, let all Indians go back. India should stop buying US products, ban US apps and people will start developing copy apps in India. We will make millions.

      Meanwhile US companies will lose their highest customer base. They will be forced to hire Americans at higher salary as all body shops are gone. The prices of products and services will shoot up as companies cost increases. They will lose market to foreign companies. Eventually they will have to move out of US. US economy goes down. It will take years but will happen. US then will be trying to give free green cards but nobody would want to come here, as pay will not be at par with major companies gone.
      May 31
  • Google wFatDuck2
    The real reason for the hate is that is people are scared of competition. They mistakenly think every job taken by an h1b was a job they could have had if not for the visa program.

    There is need of increasing scrutiny on body shops and outsourcers, but the hate and current Uscis has gone well past that sadly
    Apr 16 72
    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
      PCBro got recked. Again
      Apr 17
    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
      You gotta do better than “I know you are but what am I?” Arguments. You lost
      Apr 17
    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
      Still recked
      Apr 17
    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
      Go cry to mommy
      Apr 17
    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
      You’re going to get deported! 😂

      Bye bye PCBro!
      Apr 17
    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
      Ironic that you do this in a thread asking why people hate h1b’s, you’re going to lose yours.
      Apr 17
    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
      Byeeeeeeeeeeeee
      Apr 17
    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
      You’ll find out soon! Pack your bags!
      Apr 17
    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
      Back on the boat for you. You get the slow ride back
      Apr 17
    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
      No homo
      Apr 17
  • Netflix fpgP67
    Love how the 2 MIGAs above are at such reputable organizations
    Apr 15 3
    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
      Prestige chaser
      Apr 15
    • Apple industry
      Netflix is not prestigious either except for TC. Oh and keepers test lmao
      Apr 15
    • Google wFatDuck2
      They are most likely both immigrants themselves , just hating on others
      Apr 16
  • Jet.com / Other
    gtfoorgtfo

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    gtfoorgtfomore
    Why would I hate anyone? Am I a republican?
    Apr 15 2
    • Capital One / IT jamb
      @gtfoorgtfo - Dude it's the liberals who usually cry about asians taking their jobs. Shocking isn't it ?
      Apr 16
    • In my experience, conservatives whine about it. Shocking isn't it?
      Apr 16
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    ultramantaromore
    I am a US citizen and don't have beef on H1B visa holders. They want to get a better job and get a better wage. Who doesn't? If their home country can pay just as well they wouldn't need to come here. If they are good at what they do, and not a complete A$$hole then I could care less about their status.
    May 9 0
  • New yourb
    I am with a direct company now, which hired me because of my technical as well as leadership skills (as they say) and my given track record with them as a consultant for a year through Infosys. I have seen unskilled and skilled people with both options.. and same goes for non-h1b employees
    Apr 15 4
    • Workday ah6577v/
      Wtf is a direct company I thought every company is direct
      Apr 15
    • New yourb
      By direct company, I meant not as a consultant through a vendor, but a full time employee
      Apr 15
    • Workday ah6577v/
      I c didn’t know this .
      Apr 15
    • Apple / Eng InLL18
      This is not about skill, is about the correct intent of H-1B use. The vast majority of H-1B applicants are for working in consultancies and sweatshops and happens to be Indians that accept low wages and are not very skilled - flooding the system for basically the rest of the world. I'm glad you made it though, good for you, but I still don't support the path you took to come here.
      Apr 20
  • It's funny how people react to this kind of stuff. I know so many hardworking people who come to USA as consultants and being underpaid a lot for a years with a single goal `Grean Card`. I was a witness of a story when one of my very talented collegue come to USA on H1b visa with wife and 2 kids 1 and 3 years old on TC ~50k (it was a Florida but still not much). He worked so hard to get a little promoted. With all this hard work being trully productive and proactive he gave a huge impact on business, lead a decent team (where i was a junior dev at that point of time), launched a new products and push business to next levels. And all he recieve - green card after 4 such hard working years and zero promotions. And only reason he recieve GC so fast was his PhD in CS. In a meanwhile our team had couple citizens who was a bit relaxing, know some stuff but not really tried to have any impact, being passive. They just made some cool looking resume and prepared for some tricky question on interview. They jump from one company to another with all benefits stock and rise ups.
    For me it just so unfair. If you wine about loosing your job - is not becouse of immigrants. Its only about yourself. You were too lazy or passive. You were not smart enough or too slow. It all just your fault. Don't blame anyone else.
    May 6 1
    • Intuit VjaQ66
      You are highlighting the reason why companies prefer to hire people with work visas: Semi slave labor; Is hard or impossible to change jobs and there is always the threat of loosing your job and having to relocate to your country of origin with all of your family, Makes you more loyal and encourages you to work double. There should be a work/life balance and engineers should be able to change jobs when they want to. Visa program needs to be modernized with correct tweaking will benefit visa holders and American workers.
      May 6
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    Everyone here saying body shops should be not allowed H1B. These body shops are what keeping the products and services price in control. Imagine all hospitals and insurance companies and banks have to hire 3 Americans at more than double the salary that they hire 1 H1B and 5 offshore people managed by him/ her in India. Products and services price will shoot up and no one will be happy. 80% of Americans will be the first to be unable to afford things.
    May 31 0
  • Samsung / Product zhdjudu
    The poll does not have an option for I am NOT American and NOT a H1b visa holder, but I fully support H1-b visa holders, no matter what kind. I know many "consultants" that are very skilled and hardworking and most of all, have this strong appetite to succeed. All of those make them a great candidate for new roles which makes America what it is today.
    May 24 0
  • Cloudera / Ops sofunny
    People who talk about H1B and competition and job loss of Americans etc forget what happened during California Gold Rush, People from across the world migrated here, SFO actually got civilized and populated during this time. Technology is new Gold and migration is bound to happen in one or the other way. Also, as all civilizations move ahead, masses would move around in the quest for better livelihood and lifestyle. This is the truth from time immemorial.
    May 5 0
  • Capital One / IT jamb
    @yandex - exactly, all these whiny mfers rose from the dead and fussing about it . These people don't want to do the actual work but get tech lead positions in just 2 years and throw the real work on some h1b guy or some real engineers. Again this is not the case with every citizen but there are not many such American born software engineers who are true to their job.
    May 6 0
  • Oracle IzvL53
    Your statement is a non-sequitur, h1b program was designed to bring in foreigners when no qualified Americans are present, there is no question of competing. No American should have to ever compete with foreigners.
    Apr 16 0
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  • Partners HealthCare / HR chdg72
    I don’t hate the consulting shop H1B holders but dislike that the companies take advantage of the system and because it’s what we hear about it makes it more difficult for the others.
    May 31 0
  • Aspen Technology / Consultant wUHa67
    Why would anyone hate a Visa holder just because these consultancies game the system.
    Corporations are known to game the system, do you hate their employees?
    May 19 0
  • Oracle IzvL53
    The fact that you think that Americans have to even compete with H1B demonstrates that the program has completely lost its original intent. This is why Americans are upset, that our government does not work for us anymore.
    Apr 16 0
  • Google m6i7d
    H1B have completely fucked over Indian GC wait for 100+ years. They have to go back so I can get my GC
    May 27 0
  • Amazon / Eng 420blezos
    We should just let all the high skilled workers in, it'll be great
    May 5 0
  • Google go ogle
    Well, many/most people here are on visas and they hate each other...
    Apr 15 0

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