Have I ruined my TC by setting the starting point too low?

Google GoldenPant
Sep 19 15 Comments

For various reasons, I think I am done with big G. I want work I can feel more connected to.

I have gone out and interviewed in the Seattle area and procured some offers. In opening talks with the recruiter-types, I offhandedly mentioned that $125k base salary might be ok, since it was a little higher than what I'm getting now and I figured they could make up for the rest with stock. Now the offers are using that figure and stock is not really proving to be anything worth mentioning.

The offers are for levels that are just under "senior" (I know the weight of that term varies from company to company) and the offers are coming in around $125k base with ~$150 TC. I did expect to take a pay cut, but I wasn't sure how much I should take.

Have I shot myself in the foot? Is there a good move I can make to leverage more TC? Have I shortchanged myself, or am I being greedy?

My stats:
$122k base/$200k TC; ~$150k TC in a year after the 4 year cliff.

More details:
I didn't go out looking specifically for a promotion, but these companies seem willing to hire me at a higher level than I am now.

The companies in question are not big names. Think on the scale of 100s of employees, less than 5k.

If you want more details, I can update this post.


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TOP 15 Comments
  • Microsoft trumpety
    Tell them to f*** off! That's low balling
    Sep 19 0
  • Goldman Sachs fake engineer
    All you have to do is demand more stock and a higher level...sitting around at Google eating free food while you shop for a better offer isn't the worst thing in life.
    Sep 19 0
  • Expedia Group outties
    It is a lesson learned and the tuition is pretty cheap. Reject the offers and go get some more but negotiate better next time.
    Sep 19 0
  • Zynga parott
    Start out with 200k TC-this is some serious lowballing
    Sep 19 0
  • Google Mr. Glass
    Google is a great place to learn stuffs, you remain lv3 after 3 years?
    Sep 19 1
    • Google GoldenPant
      Ah! The famous Mr. Glass!

      I agree there's a lot to learn, but for some reason I have had an incredible struggle caring about the stuff to learn. Maybe I'm not cut out for SWE? But it feels foolish not to at least try a different job.
      Sep 19
  • New justgo
    Are you an engineer?
    Sep 19 1
  • Dropbox bti
    Don't you get annual stock refresher at G? Doesn't that make up for the cliff after 4 years?
    Sep 20 0
  • Microsoft lolhard
    Also your performance at G doesn’t dictate how good you are. You will be surprised how many seniors at G and Amazon were ex Microsoftees who were almost fired. It is about fit for people, project and etc
    Sep 19 0
  • Microsoft lolhard
    Interview for the companies known to pay better. You will definitely get SDE2 level. In fact, many of ex Amazonians come to Microsoft as SDE 2 with only one year of exp. Startups pay little. Go for Tableau, Uber, Snap, Cruise automation, UIpath, Confluent, Okta and the likes. Last four are in Bellevue or remote.
    Sep 19 0
  • AT&T MsdR32
    You have 1 more year of your grant, just restart the search and don't say a base salary, say your desired TC. Let them figure out how to do that.
    Sep 19 0
  • Google TnAn21
    My offer is basically the same, but I came in as a new grad

    I def feel short changed and most people tell me I should leave
    Sep 19 0
  • Uber / Eng fujgvceu5
    Just directly say that you are not interested in any offers for less than $250 TC
    Sep 19 0
  • Coupang / Eng

    Coupang Eng

    Are these recruitment agencies? If so, tell them to go wank off.
    Sep 19 0