Asking for a friend! YOE : 3 (before MS) MS in CS VMware - Palo Alto MTS - 2 Base 140k Stocks 140k over 4 years Joining 40k Relocation 20k Microsoft - Redmond Level 59 Base 109k Stocks 175k over 4 years Joining 80k Relocation 5.5k Interested in working in ML/AI. Promised work in that area in both companies. Interned at VMware. Please help choose the right opportunity and why!?
Admit it is for you, not your “friend” and then people will help.
It's not though.
Nobody believes you
You are such a true friend. What’s wrong to admit truth. You only started diverting others mind with your stupid lie.
Not guilty
Higher base sets you up for better long term negotiation with future employers. All your bonus, raise, 401k match ,,espp is also based on it. As you are early in your career... consider these factors.
Subtract 30% from VMware TC to account for col/tax differences. As a 59 in that role you should be promoted very, very quickly as well. I will say your Ms offer is strange. You dont see those joining and stock numbers very often for l59 hires.
Joined a year ago as 61 and got 20k signing bonus 135k base and 130k stock.
I assume industry hire. What were your yoe when you came? That's a pretty good l61 industr offer. Signing bonus not great but the rest is equivalent to several l62 offers I've seen.
Ask for level 60 because that's what they offer in situations like yours.
He asked and they said no for l60
What reason did they give? Also, did you mention about the competing offer?
Ms offer looks really great. From other blind posts, I can say it is better than L61 for sure. Mid range for l62
Not the salary though. Salary is a dead give away for an l59 offer.
It's l59. HM insisted on this level for momentum. Numbers seem strange because this was an exceptional offer due to VMware
Honestly I'm surprised they even cared about the VMware offer, but the offer *is* weird for l59. I get what the manager is saying. If person does pretty well, they should get promo quickly though.
Microsoft. Easy decision. More money effectively and better company at ML overall. if not externally, you'll have good opportunities internally. VMware is a me-too as far as ML goes.
CoL bay vs Seattle. That's 30% if not more
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