Help compare offers

Microsoft CtuYrsiWp
Dec 7, 2018 51 Comments

So far I have following offers:

Twilio:
Location: SF
Title: Principal
TC: 350k(220 base + stocks + annual refreshers)

HBO:
Location: Seattle
Title:Staff
TC:300k (180 base + sign on + annual bonus) all cash

Oracle:
Location: Seattle
Title: Principal
TC: 280k (180 base + stocks)

Current:
Location: Redmond
Title: L64
TC: 250k (175k base + stocks + bonus)
YOE: 12

Help me compare.

Update: so far the responses are:
Twilio: More salary but more cost of living
HBO: Good WLB

Would appreciate more information regarding engineering teams, focus on quality, office politics, bureaucracy, work environment etc

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  • Cisco Xaas
    Twilio
    Dec 7, 2018 11
    • Cisco Xaas
      TWLO is worth $9B. MSFT is worth $800B. Which one has the higher chance of doubling?
      Dec 7, 2018
    • ^^ None
      Dec 7, 2018
    • Cisco Xaas
      Considering that TWLO has doubled twice in the past 12 months, I’d say you’re wrong Amazon
      Dec 7, 2018
    • Probably of it quadruple in 2 years is highly unlikely
      Dec 7, 2018
    • AMD / Eng Kidology
      Stay at MS. SF is too expensive, plus state tax. You are not increasing TC that much to justify moving to BA (if increasing). Unless you are fed up with your job and wants to move.
      Dec 7, 2018
  • Shutterstock tc?ok:gtfo
    SFO = airport
    SF = city
    Dec 7, 2018 1
  • New / Eng
    DgRxJui

    New Eng

    PRE
    Amazon
     DgRxJuimore
    Continue MSFT
    Dec 7, 2018 3
    • Leave MSFT. I just started as L63 with 275kTC (180base, 50k bonus, $180k/4years). 10YOE. Seems you are paid lower @ a higher title
      Dec 7, 2018
    • New / Eng
      DgRxJui

      New Eng

      PRE
      Amazon
       DgRxJuimore
      For 10YoE. You are low ball .

      Get L64 earliest
      Dec 8, 2018
    • New / Eng
      DgRxJui

      New Eng

      PRE
      Amazon
       DgRxJuimore
      Location matters too. Where are you from
      Dec 8, 2018
  • New / Eng
    DgRxJui

    New Eng

    PRE
    Amazon
     DgRxJuimore
    No FAANG :(
    Dec 7, 2018 4
    • Microsoft CtuYrsiWp
      OP
      Didn't apply for FAANG, don't want to waste time leetcoding
      Dec 7, 2018
    • Intel / Eng Mjxjrhrhdv
      How do they judge without Leetcoding?
      Dec 7, 2018
    • Amazon Alrexaadev
      How did they interviewed u then?
      Dec 8, 2018
    • Microsoft CtuYrsiWp
      OP
      Questions were based on simple CS fundamentals
      Dec 8, 2018
  • Target / Eng .¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    HBO.
    Dec 7, 2018 2
    • Microsoft CtuYrsiWp
      OP
      Why?
      Dec 7, 2018
    • Target / Eng .¯\_(ツ)_/¯
      You wouldn’t have to relocate - the 50k salary difference isn’t very much in relation to Seattle vs San Fran and the hassle of moving isn’t worth it
      Dec 7, 2018
  • Microsoft / Eng
    tc150k

    Microsoft Eng

    PRE
    Amazon
     tc150kmore
    HBO. Good money and wlb
    Dec 8, 2018 1
    • Microsoft CtuYrsiWp
      OP
      Any idea about quality of work?
      Dec 8, 2018
  • Autodesk Hshsbs
    YOE?
    Dec 7, 2018 1
  • Amazon Stjbui
    What did you end up deciding?
    Dec 10, 2018 0
  • Veritas / Eng
    Leetchod

    Veritas Eng

    PRE
    NetApp
     Leetchodmore
    Twilio hands down. Which team bdw?
    Dec 7, 2018 0
  • New / Eng
    DgRxJui

    New Eng

    PRE
    Amazon
     DgRxJuimore
    If it's all about $. Then stay in MSFT.

    Any gain in career growth, helpful for your family, kids education, current stress, WLB etc.

    Check all aspects. Not just $$$$$
    Dec 7, 2018 0
  • Amazon Alrexaadev
    What level u at msft?
    Dec 7, 2018 4
    • Microsoft CtuYrsiWp
      OP
      Senior L64
      Dec 7, 2018
    • Amazon Alrexaadev
      Really? Isnt that a little low for l64. I think i will switch. U have some gr8 offers lined! In comprision my tc is 230k at amazon sde 2 and im not even in seattle
      Dec 7, 2018
    • Microsoft CtuYrsiWp
      OP
      Can you share info about base and stock.
      Dec 7, 2018
    • Amazon Alrexaadev
      My offer is 1 year old. My initial offer without stock appreciation was around 200k and it was lower because im not based in seattle. Since ur l64 i thought it should have been higher than 250k as l64 is like sde 3+ or principal and ur based in seattle too
      Dec 7, 2018
  • Splunk / Eng tyson1
    Twilio , OCI principal is just senior level
    Dec 7, 2018 2
    • Microsoft CtuYrsiWp
      OP
      You mean Twilio principal is also senior level?
      Dec 7, 2018
    • Target / Eng .¯\_(ツ)_/¯
      No he means Principal at OCI is really just a senior level role. It’s title bloat there.
      Dec 7, 2018
  • PayPal / Eng PyplCTO
    How do you know the annual refreshers @twilio ?
    Dec 18, 2018 1
    • PayPal / Eng PyplCTO
      You said 350 - base + rsu + annual refreshers??
      Dec 18, 2018
  • Qualcomm / Other thewhat
    Would you get free hbo if you work at hbo?
    Dec 8, 2018 1
  • Splunk Amped
    Stay in Seattle. Choose between groups for Oracle and HBO.
    Dec 7, 2018 1
    • Microsoft CtuYrsiWp
      OP
      Any idea about growth opportunities?
      Dec 7, 2018
  • Microsoft CNTQ74
    How was HBO interview? What sort of technical challenges are they working on in Seattle?
    Dec 7, 2018 1
    • Microsoft CtuYrsiWp
      OP
      It was similar to Microsoft. There are working on HBO GO and Now AFAIK
      Dec 7, 2018
  • VMware arteezy
    there's no guarantee anual refresher at Twilio afaik
    Dec 11, 2018 0
  • Microsoft DOyu71
    300 in seattle is equivalent to 390 in the bay. I'd take the HBO offer.
    Dec 7, 2018 0