Help me compare these two homes!

Box nuuh
Jan 7 19 Comments

Both are in Hayward,

1. 715 veranda cir
610k expected sale price, 3 bed, 3 bath, 3 story. 1381 SQ feet
townhouse like condo near bart. Construction 2003 HOA 232

2. Kb home next to Amtrak Hayward stop. 4 bed 3 bath. 1800 SQ feet. 739k

They have multiple warranties for the house (e.g. lifetime for roof, 10 year for structure, 4 year for plumbing/electrical etc. ) Not sure if there is any such thing for older homes?

HOA 407, also includes gated community and fire insurance. (Both are Not in option 1)


Doesn't this seem a very good deal for only 130k more, compared to older townhouse? Why is it on the market for so long ? What is the catch?

I am planning 180k down payment

TC: 280k

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  • Intel holy_moly
    Here are laws regarding new construction homes:

    And in case anyone is interested, the following are the protections covered by CA law for new builds.

    One Year Warranties

    • “Fit and finish” of cabinets, mirrors, flooring, interior and exterior walls, countertops, paint finishes, and trim. California Civil Code section 900.

    • “Manufactured products”, i.e. any product that is completely manufactured offsite, including efrigerators, stoves, etc., as well as HVAC units and fixtures. California Civil Code section 896(g)(3).

    • Compliance with “interunit noise transmission standards set by the applicable government building codes, ordinances, or regulations in effect at the time of the original construction”, as applicable to attached structures. California Civil Code section 896(g)(6).

    • Irrigation, drainage, and landscaping systems. California Civil Code sections 896(g)(7) and 896(g)(12).

    Two Year Warranties

    • “Untreated wood posts” that are installed in contact with soil such that they cause unreasonable decay. California Civil Code section 896(g)(8).

    • Dryer ducts. California Civil Code section 896(g)(14).

    Four Year Warranties

    • Plumbing and sewer systems. California Civil Code section 896(e).

    • Electrical systems. California Civil Code section 896(f).

    • Exterior pathways, driveways, hardscape, sidewalls, sidewalks, and patios. California Civil Code section 896(g)(1).

    • Untreated steel fences and adjacent components that cause unreasonable corrosion. California Civil Code section 896(g)(9).

    Five Year Warranties

    • Paint and stains causing deterioration of building surfaces. California Civil Code section 896(g)(10).

    Ten Year Warranties

    • All other components not specifically referenced in other warranties, including foundation systems, retaining and site walls, support beams, etc. California Civil Code sections 896 and 941.
    Jan 7 1
    • GrubHub 456734
      Do you know where I can find similar information for other states. NY in particular
      Jan 7
  • Intel holy_moly
    How close is kB home to train tracks and noise? Talk to neighbors in kB home community and see if you can get some info than relying only on your realtor.
    Jan 7 4
    • Box nuuh
      OP
      That close!

      The under construction area shows a few months old photo . The major road is Jackson Street
      Jan 7
    • Box nuuh
      OP
      The windows are triple pane so I don't expect noise problem.
      Jan 7
    • Intel holy_moly
      We saw a similar townhome at Fremont very close to the tracks few yrs back. It was a steal compared to other regular townhomes and I can’t remember if the windows had two panes or three, but noise was an issue and with an infant we did not want to take that risk. Neighbors did indicate that it was noisy and glad we did not buy that one.
      Jan 7
    • OpenTable Meliodas
      Noise & vibration will still be an issue.
      Jan 7
  • Intel holy_moly
    Heard from friends that KB home quality is bad. Above mentioned warranties are standard for new construction homes. Is kB home a new construction and single family? Why is HOA so high if it’s single family?
    Jan 7 4
    • Box nuuh
      OP
      They are townhouse style condo. Whatever that means

      https://www.kbhome.com/new-homes-south-bay/element
      Jan 7
    • Intel holy_moly
      Did you see the model home?
      Jan 7
    • Box nuuh
      OP
      I saw the exact home on sale. And it looks good, rather fabulous.
      Jan 7
    • Pandora joystick
      Townhouse style condo is a condo, which means you don’t own any land with it. This is important as loans for condo are more expensive than single family home (detached, duet, true townhome, etc). Also a condo is more difficult to sell to a savvy buyer compared to a true townhome.
      Jan 7
  • Facebook public2
    What is a kb home?
    Jan 7 2
    • Infinera nG0!#@
      Builders..ex- lennar, KB etc
      Jan 7
    • Facebook public2
      Thanks, been in real estate a long time and never heard of this
      Jan 7
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    • Box nuuh
      OP
      Please to explain
      Jan 7
  • eBay gcpd
    Pm me I can get you more money back for any of the home
    Jan 8 0
  • OpenTable Meliodas
    Next to the train tracks is an issue. There will be noise and vibration. Be there when a train goes by then extrapolate to 4am, before buying.
    Jan 7 0
  • Google 1234-/:;(
    Kb does not build the best homes although most flipped/new construction homes are built with shitty build quality and materials. That being said make sure you have about a 10k for some repairs in the next few years just in case. Some repairs are cosmetic and may not need fixing but i have seen everything from loose exterior tiles to shitty electrical wiring
    Jan 7 0