(currently in Menlo Park, and all offers in SF Bay area) Current situation at FB: === * Role: SWE * Level: IC5 (E5) * YoE: 12 * Base: 196k * Bonus target: 15% * Annual refresher: ~$120k (per usual) * Unvested FB stock: $332k * Tenure at FB: 3 yrs Google offer === * Role: SWE * Level: L5 * Base: 200k * Stock grant: $700k over 4 years * Bonus target: 15% * Sign-on bonus: $50k LinkedIn Offer === I'm not very keen on them, but trying to use them as leverage for Google. Here's their current offer: * Role: Eng Mgr (equivalent to Staff Eng?) * Base: $205k * Stock grant: $600k * Bonus target: 15% * Sign-on bonus: $50k The opportunity with Google looks pretty great, but I'm not very happy about the comp. In fact, if I stay on at FB, my expected TC for next year (year 4) will be $455k, which exactly matches Google's first year TC. But my recruiter said Google only considers competing offers when deciding on comp and not my current comp numbers, and their offer is essentially a 5% bump on LinkedIn's. Any suggestions for negotiating comp a bit upwards with Google? If I can get Google to agree to these numbers, I'll take it: * Base: $200k * Stock grant: $800k over 4 years * Sign-on bonus: $100k If they don't budge, I'm considering staying at FB, because I'm on a team/org with pretty good setup and prospects for growth, and the project aligns with my strengths.
Sounds like you've figured out your threshold already. My play would be to politely lay out to your Google recruiter exactly what you said here. You're excited about the Google opportunity and really want to join, but at the current offer it doesn't make sense for your family to leave FB. If they can raise their stock and bonus a bit to what you're asking for, you'll accept. And then live up to what you say - if they give you what you ask for, accept the offer; if they don't, say it's a really hard decision and you need some time to think.
Agree. You have 3 potential moves here. The first is to say "I'll accept if you raise to X". The second is to say "I'll accept if you raise to X, otherwise I decline". The third is to get another offer, it's unlikely anything will change with what you currently have on the table, assuming you're sharing all information widely.
Second move mentioned above is risky and probably won't work.
Get other competing offers apart from LinkedIn, like snap L4.
Facebook is Google’s biggest competing offer. It’s unfortunate in the sense you are working for them already. They won’t consider current probably because you want to move on anyway. So why leaving facebook?
I’d also call the recruiters BS here. Just tell them “.. maybe that’s Google policy, but I assure you that as far as I’m concerned, you are competing with FB for this to work”.
Agree on calling recruiter BS. Google is widely known to wordsmith junior positions that aren't worth your time. I had a relative that was a recruiter there; far too petty, far too cultish. What ishhhsss says seems like a jerk thing to say, but Google recruiters, as opposed to MSFT, AMZN, and FB, haven't shown the good faith, or hell even the courtesy, they demand of others. And they are quick to blame everyone.
“But my recruiter said Google only considers competing offers when deciding on comp and not my current comp numbers” WTF. Those are numbers you get by staying put. Anyways you negotiate by being flexible and being willing to walk away by finding better counters. If you want Google at all cost you accept that offer. It’s decent.
Don’t be eager. Play it cool. You’re not desperate
I don't get you numbers. Your current RSU is 332k. Google is giving you 700k RSU. The rest is pretty much the same. Where is your FB comp better?
Use the Google offer to get LinkedIn to match Google’s RSU and then use the upgraded LinkedIn offer to negotiate the Google offer
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