CompensationNov 26, 2017

Help me with Nvidia ic5 offer

$188k base/$60k signing/$210k RSUs I asked for more RSUs. I have a competing offer but recruiter says this is the max Nvidia can offer. I feel like the recruiter isn't even trying. After I got the offer, I asked for more RSUs and straight out he was like this is the max. The competing offer is better but am interested in the work at Nvidia. Waited a few days and then I told the recruiter again that I am really interested in working at Nvidia but there is a significant gap in RSUs when compared to the other offer and requested him to get the RSUs increased. I was expecting him to say something along the lines of "let me talk to the team and get back to you". But he politely said "this is already at max Nvidia can offer and there is no room". 1. Is this really the max Nvidia offers to ic5s? 2. Any suggestions on how to negotiate? Request phonecall with the hiring manager and discuss this with him? 3. Let the offer expire and hope they will come back with better numbers?

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eniac Nov 26, 2017

I think they're playing hardball because of the recent stock appreciation, lot of folks must be queuing up to join NVIDIA. If the other offer is better, why not let the offer expire? If they feel that you are worth more, they will renegotiate.

Microsoft Msftx OP Nov 26, 2017

thank you for the reply. If I do that, and they don't renegotiate, is it ok to go back and say "I will accept the offer that expired". What are the chances of loosing the opportunity? I really like what the team is working on at Nvidia.

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eniac Nov 26, 2017

This will work only if you are willing to let go of the position. I once had an offer from a reputed company whose offer deadline was for 2 weeks, but I wanted more than 2 weeks as I was expecting another offer, they didn't agree at first and I let the offer expire. They eventually came back and said I can join them anytime in any team within the next year. It depends a lot on how you well did you did in the interview.

Microsoft WwwDoDD Nov 26, 2017

Yup if you can risk letting go the NVDIA offer, you should let the offer expire and let them come back (if they do)

American Express rndmize Nov 26, 2017

If that’s the max RSUs, can’t you ask for more base and signing? If you really wanna work there you shouldn’t risk letting the offer go. Stock can also be renegotiated down the line.

Microsoft Msftx OP Nov 26, 2017

Tried that already but the recruiter said this is the max.

Baidu abd Nov 26, 2017

Out of curiousity, how senior is this position? Not acquainted with NVidia's levels.

Microsoft Msftx OP Nov 26, 2017

Ic3, ic4 and ic5 are senior levels. Ic6 is principal.

Baidu abd Nov 26, 2017

What position would you get fresh out of PhD?

Oath pjacket Nov 26, 2017

How much RSU would be enough for you

Microsoft Msftx OP Nov 26, 2017

The other offer has 350k RSUs. Even if they can go to 300k I am ok.

Carvana cFaS24 Nov 26, 2017

I’d see if you could talk to the hiring manager directly. Just ask to talk more about the position and team to get passed the recruiter.

Microsoft Msftx OP Nov 26, 2017

Ok. So it is ok to talk to hiring manager about this?

LinkedIn Pskdjdb Nov 26, 2017

Yes why not end of the day the hiring manager approves all the budget along with the Vp of the org.

Microsoft Msftx OP Nov 26, 2017

Ok. I will give that a try

LinkedIn Pskdjdb Nov 26, 2017

And if you can’t talk freely with your future manager, one thing to ask is can you be free with him in future.

Intel Yoo-hoo Nov 26, 2017

FWIW, I just got an offer and pretty much exactly this happened to me. They let me negotiate one round but that was it...offer was final after one adjustment. I even told them I had offers with higher t-comp but it didn't matter. They are being cheap because of the stock price appreciation. Pay is definitely not where I want it to be but in the end, I accepted because I currently have zero deep learning experience and feel like getting it on my resume may be worth something. But as a strategy for hiring good long term players, this seems like a bad strategy. At least you are making me feel slightly better about my offer though lol.

Microsoft yMcg47 Nov 26, 2017

Is this bay area?

Uber Rqwx5o Nov 26, 2017

Reject the Nvidia offer. They might come back in the future with more money once you are in the system as having passed the interview and rejected due to financials