Misc.Aug 14, 2018
VMwareUyhgs

Housing

Why don’t we have brick houses in America ? I would feel more safe.

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LinkedIn Toxicshock Aug 14, 2018

Earthquakes makes them less common in Bay Area. They do exist in other states

VMware Uyhgs OP Aug 14, 2018

Many of the states I have visited in Usa don’t have it either

Microsoft mstomania Aug 14, 2018

What states did u visit? Brick houses everywhere in the south(Georgia, NC, SC). New York, DC, Boston also have lots of brownstone houses

PayPal Add 💸 Aug 14, 2018

Bricks are brittle. In CA it doesn’t make sense because of earthquakes. Stick built homes are very robust and inexpensive, but won’t last for centuries.

VMware Uyhgs OP Aug 14, 2018

Can we not make earthquake proof foundation for houses

Amazon Pen Island Aug 14, 2018

It is not the foundation that collapse.

Google mfj Aug 14, 2018

wood is cheaper

VMware Uyhgs OP Aug 14, 2018

Yeah understood I’m just wondering if this shortens the life of a house given we invest millions

Nvidia Blingoo Aug 14, 2018

Millions is for the land...

Oath [object Aug 14, 2018

Bricks are brittle. They makes horrible building material. I think you’re looking for reinforced concrete. As far as I see, all commercial real estate are concrete, but residential are wood. For all the live and play apartments popping up everywhere, the bottom half is reinforced concrete, and top half is wood.

IBM grumpy@55 Aug 14, 2018

Lots and lots of homes are built of brick in the SE. I grew up in one built of cinder blocks, every other column of holes filled with concrete. It was built in the 20s and has survived 2 direct tornado hits. The roof didn't, or course, and a screen door was once ripped off during a thunderstorm, but the bones of that house have never been or needed repair. An earthquake, though...that would be U G L Y !

Microsoft @zzz Aug 14, 2018

Brick houses crumble in earthquakes and not the most energy efficient.

VMware Uyhgs OP Aug 14, 2018

What about tornadoes? .

Microsoft @zzz Aug 14, 2018

Not in the west, which is where I assumed you were located. Even then you need something like reinforced concrete. Any shaking, swaying or even small vibrations, if it gets to the resonance frequency can cause bricks to crumble.

Intel UGeJ58 Aug 14, 2018

You're right, we haven't invested the time and resources to build housing that is big-bad-wolf proof. He could huff and puff and blow our houses down along with our life savings and equity.

Cisco rkHq23 Aug 14, 2018

My parents built a brick house in Virginia after their wood house burned down.

Microsoft Lefoutloud Aug 14, 2018

Why don’t Japanese build houses with wood? It has earthquakes like every month.

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FThevalley Aug 14, 2018

True. Paper walls makes a lot of sense with their low crime rate.

Microsoft @zzz Aug 14, 2018

Paper is from wood.

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TrXcVx Aug 14, 2018

Builder here. Brick is a horrible building material. It crumbles when cheaply made and it’s not insulated. Expect to put drywall and then spend scads insulating it. It’s super expensive when well made. The Germans knew how to do this with each brick weighing almost 3lbs. The maintenance is crazy bad. Tuck-pointing after every few years. Lots of new houses (around here) have a brick facade. It’s cheaper than the real thing and many people can’t really tell the diff. Personally I love brick. I lovingly restored a 4500sf original Queen Anne and I hope to die in it someday.

Microsoft Lefoutloud Aug 14, 2018

Thanks for the insight. Side question. What is the outlook looking like for builders? With materials cost rising (more to come due to tariff), labor cost rising (economy and unemployment rate is good), Chinese tightening money putflowing, with land premium paid but buyers having less power due to rising mortgage interest (almost 1% higher than last year), I am thinking builders will slow down building new houses significantly. Perhaps laying off many employees down the road. Builders will not increase until say foreign investment started coming again. Is this the outlook?

Microsoft Lefoutloud Aug 14, 2018

Also what is the reputation of the following builders? William Buchan, American Classics (Northwest classics?), Murray Franklin, Conner, Dr Horton, Toll brothers (former Camwest). I listed according to what I heard from agents.