How are contractors treated?

T-Mobile Iiiiiiil
Jun 13, 2018 27 Comments

I've received a contract offer from Cisco and I am still interviewing for a different full-time role.

Should I consider the contract role or wait on the FTE slot? Or are contractors treated like trash?

If I accept the contract role, will I be excluded from a potential FTE offer from Cisco in the other position?

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TOP 27 Comments
  • Contractors are treated like how a white trump voter lady would treat a Mexican guy serving at chipotle..
    Jun 13, 2018 2
    • Amazon 123raj
      Like shit
      Jun 14, 2018
    • Cisco ( -.- )
      Raj knows 😂
      Jun 14, 2018
  • Don't contractors make more money though? In London avg rate is 2000 pounds per day
    Jun 13, 2018 12
    • Cisco Hadooper
      So, one person - complete outlier on the statistic. On average, we do NOT pay that insane — though I wish we all got that kind of money, right?
      Jun 14, 2018
    • Cisco Random500
      Go for FTE ,
      Jun 15, 2018
    • I know more than one person.
      Here is an experiment for you. Get off your ass and search for contra t roles in London. Salary data is public by all placement firms
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Cisco Avr1UsK
      As a direct contractor to Cisco in SJ, you can make upwards of $400 an hour. But direct contracting is rare at Cisco. To become an approved vendor at Cisco, you need to bribe a lot of higher level folks.
      Jun 19, 2018
    • Cisco petsdotcom
      You can be direct with Experis and in turn, contract for Cisco. I have two people on my team that did that, they take about 350 an hour.
      Jun 23, 2018
  • NetApp blindNTAP
    FTE is much better
    Jun 13, 2018 0
  • Cisco IQVm25
    To be a contractor at Cisco....personally, I had a great experience. My team wasn’t doing well but I only had to put in like 10hrs a week, since my team was still very relaxed. Had plenty of time to leetcode and got a job with 3x the pay (severely underpaid, but wasn’t doing much work so I didn’t mind) after my contract wasn’t renewed
    Jun 17, 2018 1
    • Cisco IQVm25
      In short, it definitely varies
      Jun 17, 2018
  • Cisco epdz13
    Free money
    Jun 23, 2018 0
  • Cisco dCIF34
    Like shit. Do FTE. Contracting is bullshit and hard to break out of.
    Jun 14, 2018 0
  • Glooko / Other
    sugarbaby

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    Stanford Health Care
    sugarbabymore
    I'm general, FTE is preferred. At Cisco, being a contractor might be more attractive. Emphasis on the might. FTE benefits and perks are usually better but there has been a lot of bulk reorg. If your contractor has a good reputation, they might offer better stability. These are just some general observations and may differ from your specific case.
    Jun 13, 2018 3
    • T-Mobile Iiiiiiil
      OP
      Can you elaborate? I'm making my decision on this offer tonight.
      Jun 13, 2018
    • Intuit poirot
      Glooko/sugarbaby: can I pm you?
      Jun 13, 2018
    • Glooko / Other
      sugarbaby

      Glooko Other

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      sugarbabymore
      @liiiiiil some contractor companies have more stability than Cisco seems to have with all the current reorg. @poirot sure
      Jun 13, 2018
  • Cisco / Product doPB42
    Being a contractor and getting out of Cisco soon, the answer is, it depends . Mostly Contractors do all the work and Cisco FTE is there just to manage us and take all the credit of the work. For a short stint it is advisable but not for a long time . If you are working on the latest tech ( I was) , it will be a great experience . Otherwise , work hard / interview hard and get a full time job.
    Jun 14, 2018 0
  • Cisco petpeeve
    I'm a contractor and have been for years. Money is better when comparing to FTE individual contributor but less than Managers and by definition you can't have people reporting to you although at the team level you can be a lead. When your project is done you get a pat on the back at best but zero severance but you can immediately get rehired for another gig and this is common. If you are an FTE and get canned you get severance but you can't rejoin Cisco for 6 months. As a contractor it's rare to get converted to FTE but it happens. FTE benefits are much better than contractors. Negotitate salary hard with the vendor as they try to keep half your "salary". In other words, say Cisco is paying $200 per hour for you, the vendor will offer you maybe $80 and keep the rest. So be aggressive. Finally... to answer your original question: I've always been treated nicely and respectfully although it can depend as there are cultural factors. Also, if you're young and dumb maybe listen more than you talk. I almost always had great managers and that's huge.
    Jun 14, 2018 0