How companies decide about seniority in swe

Apple avsjdj
Nov 4 15 Comments

I only have 4 yoe, but all at FAANG. When I went to interview with other companies, their first try was to offer me E4 ( above new grad, below senior). Then when I asked for senior, they all said ok let's have another round and I agreed. What upsets me is that that extra round was basically an LC hard. This is a joke. Even a new grad can solve LC hard if he had enough practice and good level of comprehension. This has nothing to do with being senior. Seniority comes from hands on experience. Felt sorry for those companies and obviously rejected their senior offer (MS, Oracle, Lyft, Uber).
Is this really where we're going to?

TC: 330k, ICT4 (senior)

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TOP 15 Comments
  • Microsoft / Data _john_doe
    Nice TC dude. Sound right for MS
    Nov 4 2
    • Apple avsjdj
      OP
      It's upsetting. How can they not see the problem? I honestly didn't expect it from MS. They asked an LC hard, offered me L63, then I asked for more money, they asked another LC hard, offered me L64. I was shocked! I was like ok so if I solve another LC hard I'll be a principal?!
      Nov 4
    • Microsoft / Data _john_doe
      Lol. That's weird. But MS is engineer quality is not that high that's a fact and also MS's senior is not an equvilliant to Google's. Your experience basically explains why. But not all MS is like that. Just try to find the right team.
      Nov 4
  • Amazon / Eng SEAFreeze
    Why aren't senior interviews almost entirely design and code quality based? (Kinda hard to test for the latter)

    I'm not anti LC but for seniors, shouldn't all your knowledge be in software architecture
    Nov 4 1
    • Apple avsjdj
      OP
      Yea, LC being part of the process, sure. But being the ONLY factor is stupid.
      Nov 4
  • OpenTable Meliodas
    Four years of experience is hardly senior. Companies are all over the map with their title inflation.
    Nov 4 2
    • Apple avsjdj
      OP
      If you've worked on big projects it's actually possible. Fb and Amazon have really fast pace and the learning over there is invaluable (a lot over a short period).
      Nov 4
    • OpenTable Meliodas
      Big companies have folks specialized into specific roles. They don’t learn much beyond their narrow area.
      Nov 4
  • SoFi pingus
    It usually has to do with things like maturity, leadership, the scope and breadth of projects you have worked on, being a team lead, etc. Very strange to see them base it on LC hard.
    Nov 4 1
    • Intuit c9a4b
      All of that can be fungible for interviews, yeah I was a team lead, yeah I did this hard thing, etc. it’s about storytelling and selling an impressive narrative about your prior work
      Nov 4
  • Airbnb kYFK02
    Yeah it’s a joke. Can solve LC Hard but can’t write software that won’t be rewritten in 1 year
    Nov 4 0
  • Avanade gitPullAll
    Sounds like we’re all gonna have to leetcode forever even in our 40s
    Nov 4 0
  • Google QTOPS
    Sounds about right. Curious if it'll last though
    Nov 4 2
    • Apple avsjdj
      OP
      Sounds about right even at G?
      Nov 4
    • Google QTOPS
      Yep. However you gotta ask for an attempt at higher level.

      I believe l6+ at Google isn't determine solely by leetcode
      Nov 4

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