How do you get better at office politics ?

Lyft TEHm35
Mar 22 194 Comments

I am as naieve as you can get. I take people at their word and assume everyone has the best intentions and try to do what’s best for the company . However a coworker recently filled me in on the jockeying that’s going on and how I am being used as a sort of pawn to my detriment. How do I get better at this ?

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  • T-Mobile just add
    Don't get into it. The guy telling you could be the one detrimental. Usually the ones who say they're telling you as a "friend" are the most dangerous ones. Have a job ready when you feel the water is coming up. You'll learn with time through observation on what's going on.
    Mar 225
    • Uber fish
      bad advice- I always say you need to at least understand how politics are played in the workspace or else you'll end up as someones pawn unbeknownst to you (i.e them taking credit for your accomplishments etc)
      Mar 23
    • Facebook mnbvcxza
      U r both right. Let people explain their takes, have backup plans. It is good to understand why things happen.
      Mar 23
    • American Express / Engwuali
      Observe, don't participate. Avoid teams that invest heavily in politicking. Avoid teams that are getting used to their detriment.
      Mar 23
    • Facebook mnbvcxza
      Pay attention ot what gets pickup: what tech, what people, what kind of features, products, etc.
      Mar 23
    • Salesforce Gjdh76c
      Not participating is the stupidest thing you can do.
      Mar 24
  • F5 Networks RRA
    LeetPol.
    Mar 227
    • PayPal bugfix
      What???
      Mar 23
    • Intuit z9nkay
      It’s a play on leet code. Leet politics: LeetPol.
      Mar 23
    • Accenture / DataGachon
      Funniest shit on this thread. Lmao
      Mar 23
    • Facebook maryjblind
      and chill
      Mar 23
    • Rakuten Mo087xy
      I would use that
      Mar 23
    • Apple / HRSnVL04
      I need that so bad
      Mar 24
    • New / EngDeezNuts69
      Someone buy this domain and make it happen!
      Mar 28
  • Edibles
    Mar 226
    • Google howya
      You seriously might be onto something
      Mar 23
    • Groupon MNri40
      This answer is so underrated. Edibles are the best way to contact people and improve connections
      Mar 23
    • Nvidia
      420_Blaze

      Nvidia

      BIO
      BlazeMaster 10K
      420_Blazemore
      Way ahead of you there...
      Mar 23
    • Adobe
      fros

      Adobe

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      Keep a left Sucker
      frosmore
      Edibles? Like bring people cookies/donuts??
      Mar 23
    • American Express / Engwuali
      Usually cookies, brownies and gummies. Donuts aren't that popular, but don't let that hold you back.
      Mar 23
    • Twitch RbOv54
      Edibles are too intense for me :(

      I like mdma instead
      Mar 23
  • I'm far from an expert on this but here's my take. Treat everyone with respect at a minimum and aim for friendship -it's really a win win exchange if you can trust your coworkers and vice versa. If they choose not to reciprocate, they'll eventually dig themselves a hole.

    Beyond that I think you have to learn how to convince people to help you when you need it. This can be things like helping them proactively so they reciprocate, or doing as much as you can yourself and showing you made an honest effort but need help with xyz, convincing them of the need, or sometimes roping in the right people.

    Finally, regarding you mentioning you're being used as a pawn- assess the situation. If you mean you're stuck with a lot of menial tasks, discuss with your manager. If you're willing to take on tasks that other people don't want to do but with support from leadership, that's actually a good thing for your career (at least at lower levels). If they're claiming credit for your efforts and are higher ranked, sometimes they will help you out in the future. If you're stuck with things that are menial and unimportant, that's when I would say you need to actually stand up for yourself.

    Honestly I think when people refer to politics it's really quite synonymous with career growth and not this complicated social dance. It really comes down to can you pick up skills to be effective in a bureaucratic environment? Aka can you do your job effectively?
    Mar 222
    • EY VsEb53
      Thank you!
      Mar 22
    • Booking.com B.lah
      aka read "7 habits of highly effective people". It's such a cliche book, but it doesn't hurt to give it a read. If you do, don't skip the forewords and overviews.
      Mar 24
  • Amazon motard
    Suck up to the stakeholders who control your destiny and befriend (especially outside the workplace) the high performers in your organization.

    In my experience, office politics are more about being perceived as a high performer by those above you than anything else.
    Mar 235
    • Indeed gc_+
      This
      Mar 23
    • Yup
      Mar 23
    • Cisco SLmG30
      I mean, maybe if you don't have any integrity. If you have to "suck up" to someone in order for it to advance your career, they are probably a fairly ineffective leader. They make decisions based on how well individuals make them look vs. how to deliver the best business results for the company. This perpetuates and incentivizes the toxic culture of people ONLY being in it for themselves when it's well documented that you need teamwork to build great things. My career has probably moved slower because I refuse to do this, but my integrity is important to me.
      Mar 24
    • Amazon motard
      @SLmG30 I disagree that sucking up necessarily has anything to do with a lack of integrity. Asking for more responsibility, if there are additional tasks you can help with, suggesting organizational or process improvements, etc can all be "sucking up" but are in no way bad things.
      Mar 24
    • Cisco SLmG30
      I have a fairly narrow definition of sucking up. Agreeing with everything your manager says, kissing ass, unnecessary flattery, and other such bullshit. I also put CONSISTENTLY working extra hours. Obviously everyone needs to put in a late night or two, but if you're doing it more than twice a week, you're probably contributing to a problem.
      Mar 24
  • Salesforce Sadforce
    Is it jockeying for projects, titles, adoption, getting you to do all work without any of the credit? You might want to explain what people are striving for, then others can tell you what to do.

    Very generally speaking, at the end of the day honesty wins all wars. My biggest advice is to document who is doing what and when, then when someone gives you trouble, you show them facts. I always get people off my back by saying stuff like, as a shareholder, xyz is detrimental, spend your time doing abc instead.
    Mar 221
    • JCPenney Pano
      Exposing facts by a naive player is usually a sure fire way towards getting destroyed.

      Facts are only leverage in end game moves.

      So, sure document things, but present facts as your recollection, not dedicated evidence.
      Mar 23
  • Gigamon / Eng
    chitchor

    GigamonEng

    BIO
    what's th is
    chitchormore
    Dont do it. Lets make world better place one person at a time. Incompetent people do politics.
    Mar 221
    • Amazon toreador
      You might be on your high horse for a short amount of time, but you’ll get to be on a fucking high horse!
      Mar 23
  • Amazon Ocmecmk
    What do you want your life to amount to in the end ?

    If u become good at scheming and manipulating, you will be given more of it. Do you really want it?

    I recently tried my hand at it; became decent and was given more of it ... eventually I said I am not interested in this.

    Also, people are usually smart to smell this a mile away ... nothing worthwhile or innovative ever got done this way ... only encourages more mediocrity.

    My advice is ... learn to detect it, protect yourself, deflect it but don’t get into the mid ... life is too short

    Luckily we are in an industry with good salaries and enough startups that you can keep moving around ...
    Mar 232
  • Tesla Hdhaga
    Fuck politics, practice humility and authenticity instead and you will always come out ontop. Maybe not in the classical sense, however you will have peace of mind.
    Mar 234
    • Amazon fhjhcddsfg
      Fred Kofman's conflict management advice is great for this
      Mar 23
    • Tumblr Olajuwo
      Imo that’s still politics. Knowing when and how much to be authentic and to what extent. Reading peoples expressions and knowing when to say the right thing. Blunt honesty all the time will not get you very far.
      Mar 23
    • Amazon fhjhcddsfg
      Fred Kofman makes it clear, authenticity != ignoring what the other person wants/believes. You can be authentic and still have a productive, respectful conversation
      Mar 23
    • Tesla Hdhaga
      @olajuwo, that’s where humility comes in. The ability to let go of your egos needs in spite of its fears and desires, to keep the peace. Can be very powerful.
      Mar 23
  • Amazon BillyNow
    Walk in and neck shiv the biggest asshole
    Mar 234
    • Google / Salesilhw80
      A common strategy at Amazon. ☝️
      Mar 23
    • Google hatsud00
      🥖🥖🥖🤪
      Mar 23
    • Teradata gateway
      I heard you get backstabbed at Amazon
      Mar 23
    • Amazon Hgtvc
      Correct, gateway.
      Mar 24
  • Microsoft LijjatPapa
    Speak less and listen more.
    Mar 236
    • Groupon MNri40
      Hamilton fan spotted!
      Mar 23
    • Microsoft i love 🥞
      Isn't that; talk less, smile more.
      Mar 23
    • Groupon MNri40
      Hardcore Hamilton fan spotted
      Mar 24
    • Intuit tgfi
      I was thinking Lewis Hamilton but then he’d never say that before realizing it’s the Broadway play
      Mar 24
    • Groupon MNri40
      Mediocre Hamilton fan spotted
      Mar 24
    • Intuit tgfi
      Nah I hate all plays.
      Mar 24
  • Samsung beyonds
    Why the heck people want to "get better at office politics ". Life is short to deal with this bullshit. Just get out of that place.
    Mar 231
    • Amazon toreador
      Some of us just can’t “get out of that place”. You should know more about it, Samsung.
      Mar 23
  • Uber domin8
    It's about understanding people's motivations and perceptions. You will not be able to get it until you worked in the organization for some time and went to many meetings. It almost never what it seems.

    I remember working on one project in one of my previous jobs. Fixing some very complex scalability problems. This project was mission critical and was massive pain for everyone for years. I brought new ideas and fixed some serious bottlenecks. Everyone told me that I'm doing God's work and it will be awesome when it will be fixed. Management told me that they are ready to remove any roadblocks.
    You would think that launching it would be easy.

    WRONG. I magically started getting all kinds of technical problems. Basic infrastructure started magically failing and people in charge of it were no where to be found. People, who promised me help with the integration somehow forgot all about it and got extremely "busy".

    Morons built their career around managing this broken mess. I was sabotaged by the same people, who offered me help and support.
    Mar 233
    • People pretended to care but in the end they didn’t. Such is life. No one sabotaged you. You fell for your own trap.
      Mar 23
    • Facebook Kid pulls
      But he was doing gods work
      Mar 24
    • Uber domin8
      @eh, sure... You were there and you know better... I wonder what trap is my own trap? Relying on people doing their jobs?
      Mar 24
  • Sirius XM PaHwlm56
    You could just go full Milton on them.
    Mar 221
    • Nvidia
      420_Blaze

      Nvidia

      BIO
      BlazeMaster 10K
      420_Blazemore
      That's a bold strategy... Promote this man!
      Mar 23
  • Instacart A)
    People side with people they enjoy working with. Be someone people enjoy working with.
    Mar 230
  • Tesla ulcd72
    Put your head down and work.
    Mar 234
    • New / R&D
      teramitr

      NewR&D

      PRE
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      teramitrmore
      No, that's a terrible advice.
      Mar 23
    • Facebook mnbvcxza
      And ears out
      Mar 24
    • Facebook mnbvcxza
      Eyes open
      Mar 24
    • Amazon motard
      This is terrible advice. It's how I was raised by my old school parents, but is the number one reason I was taken for granted in my early career.
      Mar 24
    • Facebook Kid pulls
      Man i listener to the audiobook. What a waste of time.
      Mar 24
    • Cornerstone / EngGtOE41
      Ah I was actually about to read.... why didn’t you like it?
      Mar 24
    • IBM Z4896
      He probably doesn’t need it, it isn’t a waste of time.
      Mar 24
  • Microsoft / ProductBlueSmith
    Join MSFT
    Mar 223
    • Google / Engcatburglar
      You'll become a corporate warrior.
      Mar 23
    • Microsoft / Design206wrkr
      True, Microsoft isn’t even about the work, few contribute that, but they do politic a good, ie annoying, game.
      Mar 24
    • Microsoft tiddlewjnn
      We thrive on politics. It’s absolutely disgusting how much you have to manipulate to get anything done here.
      Mar 24
  • Microsoft tuip33
    If your manager does not have your back, you need to change. Otherwise, be nice to people, help them out, and make sure you get your stuff done. Aim to exceed expectations, and you will be recognized.
    However, this all depends on your manager not being a credit hog or an ahole.
    Mar 233
    • Amazon / Eng
      yQoH82

      AmazonEng

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      yQoH82more
      Or manager doesn't take action to avoid the conflict. He assumes things will become better in future and ignores.
      Mar 23
    • Homeaway ppMg64
      Because not all wars are winnable. Sometimes not taking action is the best course of action.

      I call it strategic retreat. Why fight when all you have on your side is a point-of-view. Usually if things calm down on their own, no ones feelings get hurt and it’s business as usual. If the other person truly decides to escalate, it’s then you fight. Cause then it’s a fight for survival. If you are seen as someone who can be easily rolled over, people will walk all over you.

      You may get some negative feedback during reviews, and that’s why it’s important that your manager provides air cover. In the end, s/he needs to defend you during perf review. Most managers have the discretion to omit or disregard a feedback. But they can’t do that if it’s consistently negative. That’s the reason you need to pick and choose battles. Fight the ones that are truly important and let the other guy/gal win the ones where only your pride is hurt and not much else
      Mar 24
    • Amazon / Eng
      yQoH82

      AmazonEng

      PRE
      IBM
      yQoH82more
      Like the way you think.
      Mar 24
  • Amazon toreador
    Do not strike before you are really sure the blow will crush your enemies’ worthless spines.
    Mar 232
  • Johnson & Johnson dbxy11
    You need to understand lion daily wakeup and hunt many deer. If deer feel lion going to change than its deer misconception. Either deer need to develop running and hiding skill in such a way that it is impossible to catch him or learn from lion those hunting skill and fight back or make a friendship with elephant . But personnel experience running away from politics will not work . Too much politics is not the place to work .
    Mar 233
    • Amazon toreador
      I feel like your animal metaphor is a bit strained here, pal. Just sick with “don’t be a sheep” next time ;)
      Mar 23
    • I detect, like me, you're endowed with the gift of gab.
      Mar 23
    • Cisco SLmG30
      The other side of "If you can't beat them, join them" is basically losing your integrity. My TC has probably grown slower than this. But I've built a brand of incredible integrity. I have leaders who trust me implicitly because I've consistently focused on delivering business value and prioritize that far and above over who gets credit. When me or my team makes a mistake, we own it and are completely transparent. As soon as I have a leader that starts telling me to "we shouldn't have communicated that mistake, it makes us look bad", I start looking for a new leader.
      Mar 24
  • Overstock.com xslY33
    I would say, build an informal network (opposed to formal org structure). Help people across departments, genuinely want to help and all of a sudden, politics will fall your way
    Mar 234
    • Amazon Ocmecmk
      Have u really had success with this strategy ?
      Mar 23
    • Overstock.com xslY33
      Yes until recently when all shit went to hell at ostk. Lol.

      I’d also add, you have to be someone people want help from. You have to add value.
      Mar 23
    • Cisco SLmG30
      I definitely have. Nobody likes "the game", and once people see you as someone who refused to play it, people will look up to you and you will be a natural leader in the organization. You will be a more effective leader if people like you vs. fear you.
      Mar 24
    • Twitter Oomnj
      Don’t volunteer too much help lol; people generally don’t return favors that often and then its expected for you to do other people’s work
      Mar 24
  • Microsoft moxbill
    Read books. "7 habits of highly effective people" for starters.
    Mar 233
    • Amazon toreador
      🤦‍♂️
      Mar 23
    • Facebook mnbvcxza
      Win friends and influence people
      Mar 24
    • Booking.com B.lah
      I did also mention this book in another reply. I'm currently reading it, and I feel so so stupid for ignoring this book for a long time.
      Carnegie's book feels superficial next to it.
      Mar 24
  • Uber JsWY08
    You learn by getting fucked, same for life
    Mar 234
    • Amazon motard
      This is how I learned heh. I joined a smaller marketing agency where I was part of the "in" group by merit of our team's small size. My first year there, I built an incredibly successful (worth several million dollars) marketing program, received a significant raise at 6 months and an award at 9 for being a top performer. I wasn't that social outside of work, and at about the one year mark, another top performer started recruiting a bunch of his friends to the company and I found myself on the outside of the "in" group. I noticed my manager started becoming more cold towards me, yet was very friendly towards the other guy and all of his friends. At 1.5 years, I was terminated for reasons they wouldn't specify.
      Mar 23
    • Google / Eng
      rQsc13

      GoogleEng

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      rQsc13more
      Ouch
      Mar 24
    • Amazon toutd
      So sorry for you. Sad but real face of life!
      Mar 24
    • Amazon motard
      The kicker of it all is I have a very strict NDA that has been a huge burden to finding similar work ever since. I've contracted in a few places doing work not in that field, and nothing FTE. It's genuinely depressing because I really loved it.
      Mar 25
  • Databricks Vksmwa
    1) understand *why* politics exist in the first place (hint: people are driven by a multitude of things, but usually money, power and influence)
    2) use your newfound knowledge of the political dynamics to determine motives for all parties involved
    3) choose whether you wish to play into or against those perceived motives and how - the more people involved, the more complex these decisions become
    4) start acting on them
    5) evaluate the effects of your actions (e.g. whether your hypotheses were right about dynamics and effects)
    6) repeat steps 3-5
    Mar 230
  • Google Awgy10
    Agree with reading Fred Kofman and getting to be a better listener. Find out more about why anyone wants the thing they are asking for. Assume good intent,. Just learn more about their context.
    Mar 230
  • New / Mgmt
    jerseyboy

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    PRE
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    BIO
    IT Director, BRM
    jerseyboymore
    Practice, practice, practice. My job is now 70% politics, 30% technics now
    Mar 232
    • Microsoft huiii
      Must be a horrible place
      Mar 24
    • IBM Z4896
      Sounds like fun
      Mar 24
  • Microsoft true-doh
    Cute. Lol. Pretend you have no ego even if you really do. This can be done by smiling at people who you know are assholes. Don't do more socializing in the office then is needed. Playing politics isn't fun and you want to try to minimize interaction with those who do play it.
    Mar 230
  • Travelport / Engbuttnpushr
    You need to mark your territory bigger. Pee on everyone's chairs and bite anyone that complains. Be the alpha dawg
    Mar 233
    • Facebook Kid pulls
      You forgot to mention getting a standing desk and always standing. You need to look at everyone from above so they fear the alpha dog
      Mar 24
    • Amazon / Eng
      🤺22

      AmazonEng

      PRE
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      🤺22more
      😂😂😂
      Mar 24
    • Travelport / Engbuttnpushr
      That's already a given though. You should have a bouncy ball seat at the very least or you are way behind in politics
      Mar 28
  • GE QdQr41
    Ultimately it’s just knowing others weaknesses. Recognize them and exploit. Do it wrapped in humility and be nice to everyone to a fault. Fill every gap
    Mar 231
  • Lyft avoc4d0
    Please don't play politics, it will only harm you at the long term.
    Mar 231
    • New RItI54
      you mean getting promotions, higher TC and basically the ability to trash everybody you stepped in in the first place to move up?
      Mar 24
  • General Motors / EngBuyForeign
    Remove emotion from your work.

    Realize everyone is looking for the next raise and promotion. Some people will throw you into the fire when money is on the line.

    Have your bosses back and they’ll (typically) have your back. If you make them look good your chances of getting a nice raise goes up.

    Make your name known and your impact known. People will try to steal credit for what you’ve done but just move onto something bigger and better.

    Don’t be known as someone who only does grunt work.
    Mar 230
  • Wayfair LeMt31
    Knee pads. You’re welcome
    Mar 231
    • Nvidia MqGt75
      Hockey pads? xD
      Mar 23
  • Microsoft gold123
    Dale Carnegie, Cicero, Montaigne, Aurelius, Machiavelli
    Mar 231
    • Chase / Design
      tristo

      ChaseDesign

      BIO
      Less is more.
      tristomore
      Especially Marcus Aurelius. Read "Meditations," Gregory hayes translation.
      Mar 24
  • Salesforce twinpeaks
    (1) don't think of the people you work with as opponents

    Don't lose the faith you have in people, don't let corporate america make you jaded. Understand people act the way they do because they're backed in to a corner, don't know how else to act, etc. Maybe the people "using" you are overworked, exhausted from raising kids and cutthroat job, etc.

    Understand people are people. Forgive them for acting immature, but hold your ground and respect your own time and work first. But also try to understand why they may be acting the way they are- come at it from an open and honest angle.
    Mar 240
  • ServiceNow ksdW54
    The only winning move is not to play.
    Mar 230
  • Capital One Barry42
    There are jerks in the industry, I experienced this for past 12 months, changed gigs. KARMA is a BI***, all good times and bad times have an end and folks who indulge in this activity will get their share sooner or later!!
    Mar 231
  • Amazon Hgtvc
    There are two types of people: those who focus on looking good and those who focus on being good. Choose which one you will be...
    Mar 240
  • Amazon fhjhcddsfg
    Fred Kofman's content on managing conflict is amazing for this. I had exactly the same thing, and it helped quite a bit, I feel.
    Mar 230
  • Twitter Oomnj
    Also remember to never ever admit guilt or apologize. Either own it, deflect and use what-about-ism or counter it in an aggressive manner.
    Giving an apology won’t help you move forward; it’ll give your opponents and peers a perpetual way to twist the wound. They’ll bring it up months or years afterwards.
    Mar 241
    • Intuit bigfangs
      This is gold. Hard won lesson.
      Mar 25
  • Amazon fHsj42
    Make real impact not for the credits but for fulfillments and gaining skills. If the environment become detrimental that your efforts be sabotaged or you can not make real impact, leave.
    Mar 230
  • Lyft VNCX76
    Politics gets too much of a bad name.

    If by it you mean to forget your principals, be a yes-man, and try to exploit and destroy people. Yes, fuck that. Don't engage and get out.

    But if you mean to build a strong ground game, to be persuasive, and to have real connections with people so you can rely on each other, it can be a real differentiator in your career.

    If you learn how to do the latter and act in good faith, you'll win in the long run.
    Mar 242
    • Hubspot bGOM04
      The second part is an absolute game changer.
      Mar 24
    • Amazon Ocmecmk
      I am sure OP is talking about first part ... that’s the one most people hate and aren’t good at
      Mar 24
  • Google gorrilla86
    Reading through the first several top threads and this hasn't been said.

    If you have to ask "how do I win with people?" You've already lost. Bottom line: focus on you, and your team. I suck at organization hierarchy because I don't care about it. Focus on what you care about. Like driving, when you focus on the point somewhere down the road, the rest follows suit.
    Mar 232
    • Cisco SLmG30
      Strive to be the best at what you do and have unassailable integrity and you won't have to "win" anyone. People will look to you as a natural leader.
      Mar 24
    • Twitter Oomnj
      Nah that never works Cisco; I mean wasn’t Hillary the most qualified person to run for President?

      Sounds good, doesn’t work
      Mar 24
  • Microsoft mhhI43
    Lot of shitty advice on this thread. Dale Carnegie, seriously?

    Watch how other successful people in your organization play politics and get ahead. That's the only way to learn politics. After a certain level you've got to know how to play the game.
    Mar 230
  • Twitter Oomnj
    Read “how to win friends and influence people”, a few of Scott Adams books etc
    Mar 230
  • Fareportal / Eng
    LyBD31

    FareportalEng

    PRE
    JPMorgan Chase & Co., Bank of America, 500 Startups
    LyBD31more
    Read art of war, show strong relations with important people in the company that will make you look strong also dont try to attack all your rivals at the same time , take your time you will see they will finish each other enjoy it
    dont argue with stupid people dont curse or get angry , always try to say fuck you without using the fuck word that will make the incompetent ones extra nervous and feel stupid

    you need to understand jealousy has no cure read able and kane

    dm me i will give you moee tips
    Mar 231
    • Microsoft SkiLo
      Also read “The 48 powers of law”.
      Mar 23
  • Lesson 1 - People act in Their Own best self interests. Not the company’s
    Mar 231
    • Cisco SLmG30
      Don't you need teamwork to build great things?
      Mar 24
  • Amazon mafnwjf
    My biggest lesson was that while the education system teaches us to optimize for a score card where the rules are clearly stated upfront and you just follow those rules to get excellent grades, in the offices there are actually very few rules.

    Rules are made up for junior engineers but as you go higher up you realize that these rules are just made by up a bunch of normal people with normal families.

    There are like you and me, except they have had this key realization that they are there to solve people’s problems, just exist and enjoy their union.

    Notice I used “people’s problem”, not “technological problems”. Technology is just a vehicle to solve people’s problems. And by people I mean other people in the organization

    This was a shock to me. Even things that seemingly should be purely technological and market oriented were driven primarily by people’s needs.

    People who care immensely about technology and technological purity find this very absurd and depressing.

    But once you agree to this thesis, you realize that there is no perfect software for a reason, why tech debt always exists, why every architecture is a compromise and why despite keeping all circumstances same except the people involved the technical solution varies immensely.

    Also titles, promotion etc are just tools used to get things done and there is no inherent meaning. Companies can and do change the qualification bar from tile to time to meet their own needs.

    So get into the habit of caring more about people instead of technology (or even the same amount), care about making their life better and yours will automatically become better.
    Mar 280
  • Coupa mayday100
    Haven’t read all the comments... so sure... let’s weigh in...

    You say you are naive... but you are posting on blind... so kudos to you.

    Taking people at their word is not a detriment... it’s an asset... have them follow through until they break their promises. Then learn from that.

    Everyone is different, so don’t extrapolate what some of the few do to the many (that is true for the good and for the bad).

    Lastly... if you feel you are in a toxic culture... get the fuck out.

    YOLO
    Mar 280
  • Hubspot bGOM04
    Step 1. Get out, it’s probably even worse than he’s letting on. Step 2 be mindful, stop thinking everyone has the best intentions, they don’t. Step 3. It’s a dog eat dog world no matter what anyone says and no one is going to take care of you better than you. Step 4 . Realize that this happens more or less everywhere. Some places are more tolerable to deal with than others.
    Mar 240

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