How does Apple referral works?

New TqiN60
Jun 21 20 Comments

After referral from two different friends, I still got nothing from Apple. it has been 3 weeks since the first referral, and I heard from my other friend saying I have to apply the job online by myself for a specific role or otherwise it won’t link to my profile. I’m a bit confused. Also is it really that important to have a degree in CS/EE when applying for a EPM job? I got a BBA in finance from a top 20 and a MBA from a top 5 in US. 9 years YOE in software and hardware engineering and PM.

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  • Facebook zuck💲
    Referral system at Apple is one the most screwed up I have ever seen, only second to Amazon. I’d encourage you to reach out directly to the recruiter or HM for the team through LinkedIn or email (if you have that).
    Jun 21 8
    • Facebook zuck💲
      Dude! For people seeking a job, getting a transparent process is a pretty basic and fair ask, and is nothing to do with the ‘culture’ - something that certainly varies across and is representative of the company.
      It’s good to defend your company, but this is just BS - calling it the Apple way of doing it and labelling it as value/culture.
      Jun 21
    • Apple wa95014
      Why would you start a thread with “Dude!”

      Beyond that, defend my company?

      You don’t know my position on this at all.

      I hate that part about Apple. Literally is the reason that prevents us from getting shit done efficiently, but it is our company culture. It’s not just some teams, it is literally THE WHOLE FUCKING COMPANY. It’s well known by the public that Apple values secrecy.

      Systems get built that are busted AF because teams don’t communicate because it’s our culture and it’s accepted.

      Regardless of my opinion it’s Apple’s right as a company and they can operate their applicant system however they see fit.

      It doesn’t make it screwed up. It makes it something you don’t agree with.

      Plenty of people at Apple are fine with it and we refer to it as “dealing with ambiguity.”
      Jun 21
    • Facebook zuck💲
      Wow! Poked the bear. Okay, maybe I was wrong about you defending your company, and also addressing with ‘Dude’.

      1. Nobody said anything about rights. We’re discussing the referral system at Apple which OP enquired about. The fact that Apple’s referral system doesn’t generate the desired outcome for most of the cases (getting a simple notification suggesting an interview call/screening or a reject), let alone a timely feedback - is what’s screwed up. Calling it Apple’s right or culture doesn’t change that.

      2. ‘Dealing with ambiguity’ is a part most of the companies face, not unique to Apple. This doesn’t fall under that, since we’re dealing with an external candidate and talking about their POV. They didn’t sign up for dealing with ambiguity, so they shouldn’t be fine with it.

      I empathize with you from an employee’s POV, but your take on this referral issue not working for a candidate is either extremely tangential, or just BS.
      Jun 21
    • Apple wa95014
      Poke the bear?

      I’m saying that unless you’ve worked at Apple, you have no idea that this is on brand for the company and that they just don’t value that type of openness.

      I think you’re completely missing the point. It’s not screwed up just because that’s not what someone wants.

      This is like when someone says “X is wrong” when X is actually correct, it’s just not what they expected or wanted.

      1. It’s Apple’s right to operate how they want. Not being the desired outcome does not make the outcome screwed up.

      2. There are company wide training classes that talk about this concept because of the lack of open communication being part of the culture here. You don’t apply to some place unless you are willing to deal with their culture. That would be like me, moving to a foreign country, and then refusing to follow their norms and calling them “screwed up.”

      Applying and working at Apple is a choice. When you apply and/or work at Apple, you are signing up to deal with the company culture. Just like any other company.
      Jun 21
    • Facebook zuck💲
      At this point, it’s simply not worth it, so I’m out.

      You should really put up a poll asking whether or not Apple’s referral is screwed up, and see for yourself about what at least a hundred people (hopefully, if not more) on Blind vote for. And of course a hundred people can’t go wrong sharing their perspectives/experiences.
      You really need this reality check.

      Peace!
      Jun 21
  • Apple cfjzua037
    I think Apple culture is a big screwed up in general. Abusive managers almost everywhere. Much more nice companies in the valley than Apple.
    Jun 23 0
  • Sogeti mtTO60
    I got a referral from a manager at Apple and it’s been 2 months without contact. He said Apple are very very slow.
    Jun 21 3
    • New TqiN60
      OP
      Yea they are, what position did you apply for?
      Jun 21
    • Sogeti mtTO60
      QA engineer I believe. My friend told me it took him 6 months to get a response to his application, and another one of my friends who works there told me her process took 8 months.
      Jun 21
    • New TqiN60
      OP
      OMG!I saw on the internet that some people said they got their first contact in 3 days..... almost believed it.
      Jun 21
  • Apple nany
    Referral system doesn’t work at apple
    Jun 21 0
  • Apple wa95014
    Some people do get their first response within 3 days.

    It depends on the manager, the recruiter, the team, and what’s going on with that team.

    If they really like an applicant, they’re going to move faster.

    Also, nobody here can say whether or not that degree is important. Only hiring manager and recruiter. They are the ones who created the description and HM is the one that decides what’s a deal breaker and what’s not
    Jun 21 2
    • New TqiN60
      OP
      Thanks for the reply. I just got a little confused about the process. Is there anything I can do at this point? Really love to work at apple.
      Jun 21
    • Apple wa95014
      Nope. Nothing you can do.

      Do not wait for Apple, Apple is the long game.
      Jun 21
  • Sogeti mtTO60
    Talked to my friends who work at Apple about this. They told me Apple is so inconsistent with hiring. Sometimes they put up positions that they know they will need in 6-12 months and just let hundreds of applicants apply so they can get a huge pool. He said having a referral from an Apple employees puts you atop that pool if you’re a good fit. They will essentially pick you over someone else with a similar resume since you have a referral.

    They said they can also get back to some people in days. Those jobs are mostly for positions that they need to fill asap. Like someone quit and they need to find someone to take that spot to keep the project going.
    Jun 23 0
  • Apple NrHr23
    I’ve referred three people. Two got calls and interviews within a month. One was hired. The third never got a call.

    The people referring you should reach out to the hiring manager.
    Jun 22 0