Hi, Currently a SDE 2, L5 at Amazon, total 3yoe. Interested in Google@Seattle/Kirkland and hopefully getting a T4. I am wondering how/when does Google determine one’s level during the hiring process. Is it before interviews, is it depends on your performance during the interview, or is it determined during the team match period? TC 190k
3 yoe? Welcome to L3. 😂
I know T4 is no way guaranteed and that is exactly why I am asking this question. Want to get prepared. And actually it seems Amazon SDE 2 is harder than Google T4.
Fhd is right. With 3yoe they'll assume that you are are the lower side of spectrum for sde2 at Amazon. Correspondingly that places you to the lower T4 at Google => better give t3 to be on safe side. That sucks, but this is how it works. Now, of course yoe is not everything. You can fight for T4, but likely you'll need to really impress them to get the desired level.
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L3 is for new grads and people with 3 or less years of experience. L4 is Sr and L5 is manager. Unless you crushed interview, you’ll get L3.
The point is, I have 3yoe. Does 3yoe 10days good enough for L4 then? So you are saying it is one’s interview performance that determines the level?
Google primarily factors in 2 things: YOE (but only from top tier companies) and interview performance. Fair or not but Google values interview performance more. So if you did great, don’t worry about it. If you just squeaked by, prepare to get down leveled.
T4 has system design. Be sure to explain to the recruiter that you are only considering T4 otherwise if you get into the T3 loop then there's no chance of being up-leveled. I think they recently changed their policy regarding this, happened to a very skilled friend of mine.
Thanks! A recruiter contacted me. I will talk to him about that before interviewing.
Google is notorious for aggressive downleveling. almost certain that you’ll get L3 but the equity bands are very wide
Is it just because of 3yoe? What if 4yoe?
Might be helpful to look on http://levels.fyi
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