I know the SF homeless probable is bad. People shitting in the streets, rampant drug use, needles on the ground, etc. How does NYC compare?
- Only place in the world where I saw a guy using a needle while sitting on the curb, in plain day light : SF....
- NYC actually use to have a huge problem back in the day. Rudy Giuliani became mayor and cleaned it up in a simple way. He strictly enforced laws on the homeless in the ‘important’ areas of the city. This resulted in jailing of many, but also scared off what was left. Chicago has a similar policy for its downtown. San Fran needs to stop being run by hippies, that allow the homeless to do what they want and then wonder why everything is soo fucked up. Dont use drugs on the street, dont shit on the street- these are simple rules enforced everywhere else in the US.....
- NYC homeless is nothing compared to SF. I lived in NYC for 20 years. I’m in Seattle now, and last month spent a week in SF. Seattle shocked me to see the tent and RV life inside of a city. The only horrible street scene I observed was the horrible block downtown with people nearly dying before you. I never saw anything like that in NYC. Well, Seattle is nothing: SF nearly made me physically ill to see what’s going on there. It is horrible that you have to see the mentally ill on the streets, and then to have one screaming at you. Wow, I’ll say no more, other than NYC has its people asking for money, your cardboard box dwellers, and strange people talking to themselves on the subway. But after what I’ve seen on the west coast, it’s very manageable. In NYC a bum on the subway once asked to dance with me (I’m a male), in SF one guy wanted to fucking kill me because I didn’t give him money. No correlation, just saying that the homeless in NY are far quieter and less disgusting than what I’ve seen out here.
San Francisco has the worst problem with homelessness, mental illness, and open drug usage in the entire developed world. Meanwhile, enjoy your $1.5m condo with 1.1% property tax, 11% income tax, and egregious sales and use taxes.
- NYPD adopts broken window theory and policy and has zero tolerance of lawlessness thanks to Giuliani and Bloomberg. But the current mayor seems to want to tolerant homeless
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- Square Ifja58People avoid the bad areas in NYC and forget about it. Problem with SF is the bad areas are adjacent to the good ones.
- There might actually be zero homeless people living on the streets in The Bronx, East New York, Canarsie, etc. I’m sure that’s not true, but it’s no dumber than making assumptions about the “bad areas” of NYC. The ghettos of NYC aren’t nearly as bad as 80s and 90s rap videos led you to believe.
- Many of the homeless in SF are from NYC, where they were offered free one way plane tickets.
- Dell / Engtrx00moreNYC seems to have a slightly better handle on the issue with their 'right to shelter' see eg
But they still can't keep up
- Facebook Hello worlI don't know how bad sf is today, but a homeless person did take his pants off and crap on the floor of the train on my nyc commute this morning. Had too choose a different train car.
Its cold here though, not the best place to stay if you're homeless. It's not the cleanest city either way though. There are a lot of rats and such too.