How does the following MSFT offer look?

Amazon bMrd67
Nov 14 26 Comments

Current: SDE II at AMZN, TC 190k, yoe 3

MSFT Offer, no other offers (and proly wont while the msft one is active), no negotiation

Base: 137000
Sign On Bonus: y1 35000 y2 5000
Stock: 120000, 25% per year
Perf: 0-20% of base, 0-13k stock, I'm valuing perf at 13.5k per year as median

Recruiter said its SDE II at MSFT, what actual level is it based on the TC? 60, 61, 62 or 63?

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  • Apple mmmmmn
    4 yoe, got L64 at MS: 180k/250k/60k.
    Wait another year, prepare better and interview again.
    Nov 14 7
    • Microsoft 302
      No, 64 is a senior.
      Nov 14
    • Microsoft 302
      And that looks like a bay area offer
      Nov 14
    • Apple mmmmmn
      This was Redmond, and 64 is senior. PE starts at 65.
      Nov 14
    • Microsoft 302
      They offered $180k base for 64?! That’s crazy man
      Nov 14
    • Apple mmmmmn
      I actually thought it was average. Ended up declining the offer.
      Nov 14
  • Facebook
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    Stocks are low; 120 is what they offer new grads (sde 59 I think.) I would negotiate if possible & re-apply/re-interview at a later date if they won’t budge. No point in earning less than what you should be at
    Nov 14 0
  • Goldman Sachs baburao1
    shoot for higher stocks.
    Nov 14 3
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      +1
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    • Amazon bMrd67
      OP
      Can i do this without a competing offer?
      Nov 14
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      It’s possible but competing offers are obviously always the easiest way to go.

      You just have to have a legitimate reason for why they should give you more money.
      Nov 14
  • Cerner toolplex
    Level should be 61. I got 140k base + 140k stock + 30k signon for 3 YOE. I had a competing offer with similar TC.
    Edit: your offer looks pretty decent for 3 YOE.
    Nov 14 2
  • Google AC/TC
    Is 0-13K stocks the refresher range, or a separate bonus?
    Nov 14 1
    • Amazon bMrd67
      OP
      refresher range.
      Nov 14
  • Amazon gaal
    Excluding bonus, it is 180k, which is lower than your current comp. Also, your current comp is lower side of SDE 2, it will grow quickly
    Nov 14 0
  • Microsoft wxreality
    61 and 62 are the sde2 levels, this is a solid offer! Congrats op :)
    Nov 14 0
  • Microsoft lDGf65
    What chances you going to be promoted at Microsoft if not big and you like the team I suggest you to move, even if you want move it will be easy to leetcode at Microsoft + diversity on your resume
    Nov 14 0
  • Microsoft lDGf65
    Looks like this is 61 by refreshers per year
    Nov 14 0
  • Microsoft HdnF84
    Looks 61/62
    Nov 14 0
  • Goldman Sachs baburao1
    Did you negotiate? Updated TC?
    Nov 19 1
    • Amazon bMrd67
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      nope. took it as is to add diversity to my resume. after a year im gonna bounce.
      6d
  • Microsoft hisky
    Looks like L61.
    Nov 14 0

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