How does this Amzn offer look?

Microsoft / Eng CtrlDel
Feb 13, 2018 35 Comments

I have around 4.5yrs of experience and I am currently lvl61 at MSFT (Turning 62 next cycle). I currently have an offer from AMZN for SDE-2, with the following package:
$150k base, $110k signing ($62k 1st year, $48k 2nd year), $160k RSU'S vesting 5,15,40,40 percentage in 4 years.

The total compensation comes to around $220k 1st year, $222k 2nd year.

Is this a good offer for this level and experience?
Also, whats the average annual refreshers at Amazon for L5?

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  • Amazon xEon51
    Please consider the likelihood of staying for more than 2 years. Most people don't and RSUs are meaningless.
    Feb 13, 2018 1
    • Amazon / Eng somecsdude
      It is meaningful, because your next employer will try to match it.
      Feb 13, 2018
  • New mklw12
    Why do so many people leave before the 3rd year and miss the 40% vest?
    Feb 14, 2018 9
    • Amazon xEon51
      AWS. It's not like most other teams are significantly better
      Feb 15, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng CtrlDel
      OP
      I am expecting a WLB hit and have taken that into account but what you just described is a hell hole!
      Feb 15, 2018
    • New Mkqas1
      Wow. Aws seems so nice for the users. Sounds like duct tape is keeping it together.
      Feb 15, 2018
    • New Mkqas1
      I was thinking AWS would be a great place to learn and grow. But it might not be worth it. Wonder if MS Azure is better
      Feb 15, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng CtrlDel
      OP
      Azure is a mixed bag. Feature teams are good while anything on infrastructure is comparable to the AWS description.
      Feb 15, 2018
  • Microsoft Onensft
    Can you share your interview experience?
    Feb 13, 2018 3
    • Microsoft / Eng CtrlDel
      OP
      4 rounds. 1 design which went deep into File System storage and stuff. 1 with Leet Code medium problem (DP), 1 was a very good graph question, hadn't seen it before and the last 1 I dont remember (I interviewed in December).

      My interviews went really well and on reauest they gave me the chance to chose my own team. I spoke to 5 different teams across Amazon (AWS, Alexa, Redshift, Flex) before settling on the team that I am joining!
      Feb 14, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng 30624700
      Which team did you decide on?
      Feb 14, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng CtrlDel
      OP
      Flex!
      Feb 14, 2018
  • Amazon king5
    It's a great offer for an SDE2 at Amazon. Congratulations!
    Feb 13, 2018 1
    • Microsoft / Eng CtrlDel
      OP
      Thank you!
      Feb 14, 2018
  • Amazon Bubby10
    This is top of L5 level so don’t expect any refreshers for the first two years atleast
    Feb 13, 2018 0
  • Facebook / Eng Guest15
    Is the signing upfront each year? Or paid out monthly?

    Unless you plan to leave after the 2nd year, make sure you consider TC for years 3 and 4. If money is one of your top priorities, you can make more elsewhere (like FB) over the first 4 years
    Feb 13, 2018 3
    • Microsoft / Eng CtrlDel
      OP
      I havent asked the recruiter about the signing payout.
      Tried interviewing with FB but was abruptly told before phone interview last July that they had stopped hiring for this level for 2017 and haven't heard back from recruiter when I pinged her again in January.

      BTW, I chose the team I am planning to joining at AMZN after speaking to 5 teams and really liked the work they are doing.
      Feb 13, 2018
    • Facebook / Eng Guest15
      From what I’ve heard, Amazon pays out signing bonus monthly rather than upfront. Ask the recruiter about that.

      Amazon RSU refreshers aren’t great. Especially considering their vesting schedule. (I used to work at Amazon.)

      If the work itself is appealing to you and you want Amazon on your resume, I’d say the offer seems fine. My 2c
      Feb 13, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng CtrlDel
      OP
      Thank you! Probably going to take it. Compensation wise, I will be making around $166k this year at MSFT, adding $20k for the benefits difference between both companies, I am getting a bump of around $34k or 20% which seems like a good jump to me.
      Above money, the work at Amazon seems really interesting!
      Feb 14, 2018
  • Amazon lpxyz
    V good offer
    Feb 13, 2018 0
  • Amazon xEon51
    L5 tops at 250k
    Feb 13, 2018 0
  • Cisco archvile
    Good offer, is it Seattle or some other regions?
    Feb 13, 2018 2
    • Microsoft / Eng CtrlDel
      OP
      Seattle!
      Feb 13, 2018
    • Cisco archvile
      Congrats
      Feb 13, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng
    JustFOokIt

    Amazon Eng

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    JustFOokItmore
    U can ask upto 250k if u hv good competing offers and they really need u
    Feb 13, 2018 1
    • Microsoft / Eng CtrlDel
      OP
      I do have a competing offer around $30k TC above this offer, but they haven't relented. I have played hardball already!
      Feb 14, 2018
  • Amazon kukuku99
    Top notch. You must have killed it in the interviews. Congrats
    Feb 14, 2018 0
  • Microsoft VRmP44
    Good offer for Seattle
    Feb 13, 2018 0
  • Twitch ggdhjyrt87
    Good offer..
    Feb 13, 2018 0
  • Microsoft pbi
    You can ask for 300k stocks..
    Feb 13, 2018 1
    • Amazon / Eng somecsdude
      Not gonna happen. Amazon’s stock cliff means that you get 40% at 3rd and 4th year each, so that’s 120k stock / year. 1st 2nd year is compensated by sign on bonus.
      Feb 13, 2018

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