How is the T4 offer for Goog for Seattle ..

Amazon amzntonext
Apr 18, 2018 42 Comments

Got this offer recently for T4 SWE

143k base + 360k equity 4 years + 15% bonus + 50k sign on?
Total years of experience 7.5 years. Currently Amazon SDE2.

Is it lower end, or Median of top notch ?

Do I have any more headroom for negotiation?

Also what is the general(Meet expectations) year end base increase and stock refresh at Google ?

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  • Microsoft / Eng Dr.13
    God dammit we get shit for stocks...
    Apr 18, 2018 5
    • Amazon amzntonext
      OP
      What is your offer for Goog ?
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      sarcasticg

      Amazon Eng

      PRE
      Sabre Corporation
      sarcasticgmore
      I think microsoft meant ms offers shit for stocks
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Facebook public
      Stock*
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      sarcasticg

      Amazon Eng

      PRE
      Sabre Corporation
      sarcasticgmore
      Grammatic Pedantry Syndrome
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Facebook public
      Naw I gave up on trying to help folks speak long ago, I was referring to the amount of stock MSFT awards employees :)
      Apr 18, 2018
  • Boxed / Eng
    Bruuuuuuce

    Boxed Eng

    PRE
    Boxed
    Bruuuuuucemore
    What the fuck is stocks? Do they also give you equity in another company?
    Apr 18, 2018 2
    • Amazon / Eng
      sarcasticg

      Amazon Eng

      PRE
      Sabre Corporation
      sarcasticgmore
      You have to think within the box..No pun intended
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng
      Kskdnn

      Microsoft Eng

      BIO
      Hate coding quizzes but studying hard for better future!
      Kskdnnmore
      They give waters, too.
      Apr 18, 2018
  • Google / Product callofwild
    I would say median in Bay, probably higher end in Seattle
    Apr 18, 2018 3
    • Amazon amzntonext
      OP
      Do Goog comp vary for bay vs Seattle ?
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Google / Product callofwild
      I'd assume so, probably could ask the recruiter
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Google / Product callofwild
      Not on equity
      Apr 18, 2018
  • Google Facebook
    Awesome offer. Above median for Seattle. Take it immediately.
    Apr 18, 2018 2
    • Amazon amzntonext
      OP
      Thanks , not sure if pulling my leg though !!
      I have seen your comments in other sal evaluations thread and it seems like this might be below median (That dude had like 15k more base etc)
      Apr 19, 2018
    • Google Facebook
      Perhaps in Bay area? In Seattle L4 base starts at 132 and spans to 155, afaik. Stock is decent. It rarely exceeds 300k for L4 even in the Bay.
      Apr 19, 2018
  • Google / Eng
    relus

    Google Eng

    PRE
    Microsoft
    relusmore
    It’s fair (median) for a ‘real’ T4. Base is low but rsu is much higher than average. It’s low for downleveled T4, if you could get T5-equivalent offer from elsewhere, you should ask for much more.
    Apr 18, 2018 2
    • Amazon amzntonext
      OP
      Thanks , is comp same for Bay vs Seattle ? Or is this median for Seattle too...
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Google / Eng
      relus

      Google Eng

      PRE
      Microsoft
      relusmore
      Policy wise it is the same but statistically Seattle median could be lower due to local market and lifestyle. People from Microsoft (like myself) would happily accept an offer that’s 10% lower than Google median but 50% higher than MS pay.
      Apr 18, 2018
  • Google sdfghj
    Wow..
    Take it dude
    Apr 18, 2018 1
    • Amazon amzntonext
      OP
      Was just searching blind , have not seen anyone with offered base less than 150k for same position . Generally seen peeps with 155-160k , so was concerned if this is on lower end ?
      Apr 18, 2018
  • Twitter mike123456
    Wow 360k stocks!
    Apr 18, 2018 0
  • Intel / Eng
    googleme2

    Intel Eng

    BIO
    Hardware quality and reliability professional
    googleme2more
    Does Google offers stock refresh every year or every 6 months ? Heard they have some 6 month review/focal process ??
    Apr 18, 2018 3
    • Google / Eng
      relus

      Google Eng

      PRE
      Microsoft
      relusmore
      Yearly. Review is two times a year but one of them is optional if you don’t apply for promo.
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Intel / Eng
      googleme2

      Intel Eng

      BIO
      Hardware quality and reliability professional
      googleme2more
      Do you get salary hike/stocks in that optional one ? exceeds rating ?
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Google / Eng
      relus

      Google Eng

      PRE
      Microsoft
      relusmore
      Salary hike, bonus and refresher all come once a year in Dec/Jan. The mandatory review is in March and optional one in Sept.
      Apr 18, 2018
  • Amazon WorkFor$
    How many years of experience at Amazon?
    Apr 18, 2018 3
    • Amazon amzntonext
      OP
      4
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Amazon WorkFor$
      Is it AWS or Retail? Does Google care about past experience or work during interview?
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Amazon amzntonext
      OP
      Alexa
      Apr 18, 2018
  • Amazon bPRG82
    T4 at goog is sde 2 equivalent at amazon?
    Apr 21, 2018 1
  • Amazon / Product
    GoAlexa

    Amazon Product

    PRE
    AMD, EY
    GoAlexamore
    How is L5 Engg equivalent to T4 Engg at google?
    Apr 18, 2018 1
    • Lyft whoAmI001
      Lol...Google and fb and a bunch of other places hire new grads at L3 as compared to L4 at Amazon
      Apr 18, 2018
  • Facebook / Eng MoreImpact
    Why is base at Google so low?
    Apr 18, 2018 1
    • Amazon amzntonext
      OP
      Not sure, you tell me
      Apr 19, 2018
  • Lyft whoAmI001
    Ask for 170k base and see what they offer
    Apr 18, 2018 1
    • Google Facebook
      No way, 160 would be the max if you have E5 offer from FB and G wants you badly.
      Apr 18, 2018
  • Amazon pure666
    and L59 at MSFT :D
    Apr 18, 2018 0
  • Google heygoog
    This is a ridiculously good T4 offer for SEA-KIR
    Apr 18, 2018 0
  • Amazon amzntonext
    OP
    Btw, this is for Swe
    Apr 18, 2018 0
  • Amazon amzntonext
    OP
    Also does Base increase during year end evaluation ? If some what is the general % ?
    Apr 18, 2018 0

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