How is the tech scene outside United States?

Amazon / Eng
lollllllll

Amazon Eng

BIO
Lost in the software world gluing APIs and classes together. Wanted to innovate; now just want my stocks to vest. :/
lollllllllmore
Jul 22, 2018 65 Comments

Specifically asking about the tech scene in the following places:
1. Canada
2. Australia
3. India
4. Singapore
5. Ireland
6. London

Looking for:

1. Interesting software work (stable startups / public companies with chance to grow)

2. Earning equivalent of TC: 168k (base + bonus + stock excluding 401k and commuter benefits) at SDE 1 level

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TOP 65 Comments
  • New / Eng
    ricegum

    New Eng

    PRE
    Amazon
    ricegummore
    I heard that the battle for tech talent in India is heating up; through the grapevine the news is that Ola will straight-out double any competing offer for example.
    Jul 22, 2018 7
    • LinkedIn / Eng
      Lnkd196

      LinkedIn Eng

      PRE
      Amazon, Google, Facebook, Yahoo, Microsoft, Uber, Netflix, Airbnb, LinkedIn
      Lnkd196more
      Amazon is killing all other offers in India.
      Jul 23, 2018
    • Amazon 123raj
      And also killing all other offers in terms of stress
      Jul 23, 2018
    • LinkedIn / Eng
      Lnkd196

      LinkedIn Eng

      PRE
      Amazon, Google, Facebook, Yahoo, Microsoft, Uber, Netflix, Airbnb, LinkedIn
      Lnkd196more
      Agree.
      Jul 23, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng torterra
      That bad, huh ?
      Jul 23, 2018
    • Amazon 123raj
      You cant imagine.
      Jul 23, 2018
  • Amazon Gfdsajhgfy
    Australia: nonexistent
    Jul 22, 2018 11
    • Stripe / Eng qwJl25
      Also Canva is a promising unicorn there. It seems likely that more US unicorns will open shops there. But you’re still better off in the US offices.
      Jul 23, 2018
    • Stripe / Eng qwJl25
      Also, Australia’s tech industry outside the select few companies is mostly contractor only. You can easily spend your entire career working 3-6 month contracts.
      Jul 23, 2018
    • Tango Health / Eng rawblonde
      How good does contracting pay?
      Jul 23, 2018
    • Stripe / Eng qwJl25
      I work in the US. But I have found the high end of offers for Sydney are in the $750-$1000 a day range.
      Jul 23, 2018
    • Amazon Gfdsajhgfy
      WUT!
      Jul 23, 2018
  • Compass / Eng
    FUPayMe

    Compass Eng

    PRE
    Google
    FUPayMemore
    Israel is comparable to America. Everywhere else is garbage or government restricted.
    Jul 22, 2018 6
    • Compass / Eng
      FUPayMe

      Compass Eng

      PRE
      Google
      FUPayMemore
      See China, Russia, most of the Mid East. etc wrt government restrictions. See anywhere else for a volume of startups and you’ll be disappointed by volume and wages.
      Jul 22, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng
      Goswim

      Microsoft Eng

      BIO
      Hate coding quizzes but studying hard for better future!
      Goswimmore
      How is the pay in Israel? I see many startups purchased by American companies. Do employees earn much in this case?
      Jul 22, 2018
    • Compass / Eng
      FUPayMe

      Compass Eng

      PRE
      Google
      FUPayMemore
      Yes.
      Jul 22, 2018
    • CrowdStrike WWzj13
      Startups give work visas in Israel...?
      Jul 23, 2018
    • Cisco / Eng QAticle
      No. Israel has solid people but it’s nothing like the US.
      Jul 23, 2018
  • Microsoft / Eng 🍁 syrup
    Toronto is not bad, pays around the same if not better than Vancouver, with lower housing cost and more interesting city life. As well as better talent pool, the talent pool in Vancouver revolves around gaming. Toronto also benefits from stronger academic setting of Waterloo, UToronto and Monsieur Bengio at Montreal.
    Jul 22, 2018 3
    • Microsoft / Eng 🍁 syrup
      But then you gotta deal with real Canadian winters eh ❄️❄️💨☃️🌨🌫
      Jul 22, 2018
    • Apple sojk65
      One thing you left out: there's a shitload of things to do around van/BC but nothing but factories and suburbs outside Toronto.

      Source: lived in ON whole life, been to van many times
      Jul 22, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng 🍁 syrup
      Lol this is true, growing up in Vancouver has made me take that for granted I suppose
      Jul 22, 2018
  • Oracle / Eng Lknbvgfd
    I’m looking to make a move outside of US and researching the same. I want to avoid India because- Bangalore tech scene is great and the pay is great. But the city is so fucked up with pollution and traffic that it’s not simply worth living there. Hyderabad is a great place, but very little tech scene (Amazon and Microsoft has huge offices. Nothing apart from that) Don’t even get me started about NCRs pollution.
    Jul 24, 2018 4
    • Pandora / Eng Gabbar.
      In the same boat :(
      Jul 24, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng torterra
      Google, Uber, Apple, Nvidia, Oracle, Qualcomm & many other smaller players all have sizable tech presence in Hyderabad. Maybe not SV or Seattle tier, but it does have an active tech scene.
      Jul 24, 2018
    • Oracle / Eng Lknbvgfd
      Google Hyderabad almost never hires
      Apple has setup a small app development thing. No major tech
      However no active startup culture as in Bangalore.
      Jul 24, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng torterra
      Both Google & Apple have been expanding recently. Agreed on the startup point.
      Jul 24, 2018
  • Versa Networks / Eng
    nullvoider

    Versa Networks Eng

    PRE
    QuinStreet
    nullvoidermore
    Pune, Bangalore and Hyderabad have tonnes of software firms in India.
    Jul 23, 2018 3
    • Amazon 123raj
      And NCR?
      Jul 23, 2018
    • Versa Networks / Eng
      nullvoider

      Versa Networks Eng

      PRE
      QuinStreet
      nullvoidermore
      I believe NCR and Gurgaon also has good number of IT companies but not compared to the other 3 cities.
      Jul 24, 2018
    • Amazon 123raj
      Hmm
      Jul 24, 2018
  • Twitch FUI
    Zurich, Berlin, London and Stockholm have good tech companies
    Jul 22, 2018 2
    • Oracle / Eng
      tyxiba

      Oracle Eng

      PRE
      Deloitte, IBM
      BIO
      Client facing engineer here. I'm a people person I tell ya!
      tyxibamore
      I'd add Amsterdam in there as well. Elastic is HQ'd there, for instance.
      Jul 22, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng VlCX25
      Any other tech companies in Amsterdam or London? Idea of living abroad intrigues me since I didn’t do the study abroad thing in undergrad, and there’s really no language gap in both cities.
      Jul 22, 2018
  • Microsoft WoCE36
    Go to China like Alibaba, ant financial, baidu, tencent, etc. they pay is as good as in SV but lower COL
    Jul 22, 2018 3
    • Oracle / Eng Fhhgdj
      housing even worse than SV
      Jul 23, 2018
    • Twitch FUI
      Wlb is terrible in China.
      Jul 23, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      lollllllll

      Amazon Eng

      BIO
      Lost in the software world gluing APIs and classes together. Wanted to innovate; now just want my stocks to vest. :/
      lollllllllmore
      OP
      There's a reason I didn't even put China in my list of places in the question. :)
      Jul 23, 2018
  • Pure Storage / Eng Leetcode99
    All losers compared with China.
    Jul 23, 2018 0
  • Avegant / Eng
    Cryptozoid

    Avegant Eng

    PRE
    Qualcomm, Nokia, Apple, Avegant
    BIO
    Hardware Tinkerer, Software Engineer, Musician, Painter, Moving Helper
    Cryptozoidmore
    Zurich Google will be my top pic, primarily because Quality of life and Salaries
    Jul 26, 2018 3
    • Oracle / Eng Lknbvgfd
      Isn’t it too cold on there? I feel such climates are depressing. And can you elaborate on quality of life? I thought people in general are very reserved in swiss and is completely lonely environment
      Jul 26, 2018
    • Avegant / Eng
      Cryptozoid

      Avegant Eng

      PRE
      Qualcomm, Nokia, Apple, Avegant
      BIO
      Hardware Tinkerer, Software Engineer, Musician, Painter, Moving Helper
      Cryptozoidmore
      Money is the best in EU over there, it is beautiful in Summer, I actually prefer reserved , I like to keep it to myself, quality of Schools is great too, besides when I want some city fun Paris or Amsterdam are not far
      Jul 29, 2018
    • Lam Research / Eng
      duckflow

      Lam Research Eng

      PRE
      Lam Research
      BIO
      ASU 2021 ME & CS
      duckflowmore
      Zurich is not a bad climate at all. Winter drop below freezing (barley) but summers are on par with SF. Source: Lived on Czech Republic/German border, google
      Jul 31, 2018
  • HAECO Americas / Eng
    kGRW38

    HAECO Americas Eng

    BIO
    My first “job” , Interior mods on commercial aircraft. Working on coding skills to hopefully transition to the a computer science related career
    kGRW38more
    Jesus .. 168k !
    I need to get into software ASAP..
    Jul 24, 2018 3
    • Avegant / Eng
      Cryptozoid

      Avegant Eng

      PRE
      Qualcomm, Nokia, Apple, Avegant
      BIO
      Hardware Tinkerer, Software Engineer, Musician, Painter, Moving Helper
      Cryptozoidmore
      Seems you are new. You have no idea what you’re gonna see on Blind. 168k TC is miniscule
      Jul 26, 2018
    • HAECO Americas / Eng
      kGRW38

      HAECO Americas Eng

      BIO
      My first “job” , Interior mods on commercial aircraft. Working on coding skills to hopefully transition to a computer science related career
      kGRW38more
      Indeed. Saw a couple over 250k.
      Crazy stuff.
      Jul 26, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      lollllllll

      Amazon Eng

      BIO
      Lost in the software world gluing APIs and classes together. Wanted to innovate; now just want my stocks to vest. :/
      lollllllllmore
      OP
      Couldn't agree more with the above 2 comments
      Jul 29, 2018
  • Oracle / Eng
    Clave334

    Oracle Eng

    PRE
    Amazon
    BIO
    Awful guy
    Clave334more
    China has the a very strong tech environment. Search for “alibaba 11 sales 2017” and then compare with “amazon prime day 2018”. You will find wtf Amazon is shit.
    Jul 23, 2018 1
    • Lyft / Eng nSJk48
      so truth
      Jul 23, 2018
  • Yahoo / Eng Kaliya
    Not so much.. Handicap in English is still a thing with Chinese. Local Chinese companies like Alibaba BaiDu Weibo can only employ so much.. Probably most American companies have biggest Dev centers out of USA in India.. And then there are tons of local startups.
    Aug 9, 2018 1
    • Volvo / Eng
      fcvP36

      Volvo Eng

      PRE
      Ericsson
      BIO
      10+ YOE in USA; 4+ globally
      fcvP36more
      Idk! I feel you may be biased... any supporting articles for such argumentation?
      Aug 9, 2018
  • Yahoo / Eng Kaliya
    It’s either USA or India rest are fillers.
    Aug 9, 2018 1
    • Volvo / Eng
      fcvP36

      Volvo Eng

      PRE
      Ericsson
      BIO
      10+ YOE in USA; 4+ globally
      fcvP36more
      Come on! That's not true buddy! You can China too!
      Aug 9, 2018
  • Oracle / Eng Lknbvgfd
    Any reason why you didn’t include London in your list?
    Jul 24, 2018 1
    • Amazon / Eng
      lollllllll

      Amazon Eng

      BIO
      Lost in the software world gluing APIs and classes together. Wanted to innovate; now just want my stocks to vest. :/
      lollllllllmore
      OP
      No specific reason. Adding it now :)
      Jul 24, 2018
  • Volvo / Eng
    fcvP36

    Volvo Eng

    PRE
    Ericsson
    BIO
    10+ YOE in USA; 4+ globally
    fcvP36more
    How about you add Scandinavian countries to the List? What about France too? Mr. macron magnet to bring tech companies over there?
    Jul 29, 2018 0