10-5ish in my team. Usually pretty busy once you are in the office but I don’t see anyone stays too late or work affects their personal life in any way. Most people are reasonable and generous about covering oncall for others when they need time off too.
I am in Alexa in Seattle. We are actually very busy in office hours for meeting, trying to squeeze some time to code, discussing what you need to discuss with other — tech/non tech people. But with experience most know you can only be productive a few hours a day, not “brute force” with more hours.
Another thing that I found productive is to manage expectation with management and other people. For example, when things are super ambiguous and you don’t know how long the project is gonna take yet, just say that and articulate why or at least try to.
I actually find it surprisingly odd with a lot of complaints about work life balance in my company. It depends a lot on you too and whether you voice your concern when things are not ok for you and your team. This applies to other context in life too, so hoping to land randomly on a good team and nice teammates is not a good strategy.
I agree with OP. Some people like to have life outside office, you know! Work isn’t their life. For me, my personal life is equally important, if not more. Doesn’t mean that I will procrastinate and miss deadlines in office. It’s just that I will join a company and a team, which matches my expectations! Just like I have to match my managers expectation to get hired.
I hope you get your head out of your ass and look around. You will realize how beautiful life is, around you! :)
Because there are few teams that are really really terrible. I changed teams a while ago and even the bar is different, it is more realistic. Do your research before joining a team and you should be fine.