How is working with smart folks at FAANG?

New / Eng Hydxhtdvgf
Oct 13, 2018 25 Comments

I’m thinking about interviewing at FB/Netflix. Got a couple offers 2 years ago but turned them down at the time.

I am currently at a startup where money is good (I was early and with the liquidity I am eating getting from the equity it evens out with the amount I could make at FAANG essentially) but I feel my peers are not as talented as I would like, I’m always the one trying to learn best practices and new stuff, others are mostly looking to get by and “hide” bugs. Hell, most people don’t even bother respecting coding conventions we have, and their code gets reviewed and merged just fine.

Is the idea of getting into FAANG purely to work with senior smart people I can learn from (and not $$) a fallacy? Will I be happy or will I quickly realize that people are average OR people are compartmentalized enough that one can’t effectively learn from the brightest OR the environment is so competitive that everyone is against the other and the brightest will throw me under the bus since I’m not as talented?

Thanks.

comments

Want to comment? LOG IN or SIGN UP
TOP 25 Comments
  • Facebook / Eng
    ctcisux

    Facebook Eng

    PRE
    Amazon
    ctcisuxmore
    you’ll definitely find that at FB. the con is that a lot of people will be strivers and it translates to not as great WLB
    Oct 13, 2018 0
  • Facebook i🤖i
    I miss being the smartest person in the room
    Oct 13, 2018 5
    • New / Eng Hydxhtdvgf
      OP
      But on paper that sounds really good because you are growing. Is your comment ironic or does it have some real implications such as getting a lot of pressure to perform?
      Oct 13, 2018
    • Facebook iuga45
      Yes, you learn a lot , but it doesn’t feel good while you are at it
      Oct 13, 2018
    • New / Eng Hydxhtdvgf
      OP
      Thanks. Have you seen people getting fired as a result of “not being smart enough”, or is it mostly a matter of attitude and random chances, such as how you go along with your boss?
      Oct 13, 2018
    • Facebook iuga45
      I’ve seen people being managed out because of not meeting expectations, that would have done fine in many other companies. It is not for not being smart, usually non smart people don’t make it through the interview process
      Oct 13, 2018
    • Facebook iuga45
      Also, your manager recommends but does not set your rating so the ability of your manager to screw you or overcompensate you is limited given the way the performance process works
      Oct 13, 2018
  • Citibank / Eng TQtT37
    Smart? Define smart
    Oct 13, 2018 2
    • New / Eng Hydxhtdvgf
      OP
      The exact opposite of how I described my coworkers in the post. A better description could be “people who really like the craft of software engineering, and excel at it. Their code/projects could be open sourced today and the entire programming community wouldn’t find it disgusting. Those people recognize their skills and demand high compensations for it, they are not fools working on their craft for pennies”
      Oct 13, 2018
    • Citibank / Eng TQtT37
      Not sure I agree with your definition of smart but it’s certainly a better question.
      Oct 13, 2018
  • Google hdjsks
    google is a bunch of people chilling and being blocked by immense amounts of process with pockets of bright people who work hard
    Oct 13, 2018 0
  • New / Eng RhpJ71
    I was at a startup in kind of the same situation that you are describing. FANG is better. But on the flip side I am working harder and longer. So pick your poison -- just don't make it too much about money. FANG and unicorns are different lifestyles. Pick one according to taste.
    Oct 13, 2018 6
    • New / Eng RhpJ71
      I put in 8 hours a day at the startup and people were happy because the skills more than makes up for the number of hours put in by others. The bar is higher at FANG: you need to put in both skill and hours. Also, you deal with harder problems and need to work with more people.
      Oct 13, 2018
    • New / Eng Hydxhtdvgf
      OP
      Have you seen people failing under such pressure? Is it typically because of poor skills, poor attitude or else?

      Thanks btw
      Oct 13, 2018
    • New / Eng RhpJ71
      You need to put a lot of things together to do well: skills, hours, patience with people, positive attitude, etc. You don't have to excel in each -- being good in each is okay. Don't put yourself in a boom or bust situation and you'll be fine. If you want to grow at a frenzied pace -- that's something else altogether.
      Oct 13, 2018
    • New / Eng Hydxhtdvgf
      OP
      Thanks. It’ll be quite disappointing if I jump ship and then fail to perform there.
      Oct 13, 2018
    • New / Eng RhpJ71
      Don't worry about it. The main difference between FANG and the rest is that the tail is shorter at FANG. They have some super talent but so do other companies. Depending on the group you land at, you might find yourself amongst the top in that group.
      Oct 13, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng in bvggx
    Grass is not greener here! In fact it's just green illussion and grass has been eaten.
    Oct 13, 2018 2
    • New / Eng Hydxhtdvgf
      OP
      Could you also give some detail on the topic? Thanks
      Oct 13, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng in bvggx
      Usually smart people are out of reach. Mostly you work with pretty average people and also day to day life is not at all that exciting. Mostly people are clueless about how their work impact the overall picture.
      Oct 13, 2018
  • Google Techmeme
    It sucks man. Yeah big time sucks
    Oct 13, 2018 1
    • New / Eng Hydxhtdvgf
      OP
      Could you please detail a big more? Thanks
      Oct 13, 2018
  • Dropbox dropper
    After working in many bay area companies, I can say that my experience at dropbox has been great.
    I had heard very smart engineering talent, and it is true.
    And I like that people are very open and approachable.
    And independent of your team, you can collaborate with anyone else as well, if u want exposure. And they like such engineers a lot.
    I have heard my manager rave about an engineer who did a sprintathon with our team, for e.g. and is trying to get her to transfer to our team permanently. !
    Oct 14, 2018 0
  • New hyre
    I understand you, bro
    Oct 13, 2018 0

Salary
Comparison

    Real time salary information from verified employees