DiversityAug 12, 2018
AppleJamesTkirk

How many of you think H-1B folk “steal” American jobs?

Seriously. I am sick of MAGA idiots yammering all over about H-1B immigrants stealing jobs. Now, I do agree some outsourcing shops do visa fraud that needs to be curbed. We come here legally, pay taxes, buy houses made our life here for decades, support our communities and contribute to economy. But how many of you honestly know how much does an employer has to invest in money and time to get a H-1B application going and the rigorous processing involved with attorney, USCIS ? And do you believe these corporations would invest this money in visa fee, attorney fee, cycles for one H-1B visa and in path to citizenship, if they can find equally able American citizens to do the same job? These tech jobs need to be filled with able folk who are STEM majors or at the least with those who have cognitive abilities and engineering knowledge. Even if the administration makes H-1B harder, these jobs aren’t going to be awarded to American citizens they’ll rather be outsourced to countries where these companies can find able folk(Flash news: it’s already happening). It’s never too late to correct the course why not improve this broken education system first and foster the future generation towards STEM majors? US still ranks 38th in math and 27th in sciences and lags behind any and all of the industrialized nations. Why not start the focus there than spending millions of dollars of taxpayer money in building football fields for colleges and schools. You’re only bailing out NCAA and other leagues in doing so. How does that really benefit your future generation? A Swahili degree isn’t going to be of much help for the student athlete with broken fibula. The first step of solving the problem is to admit you’ve a problem. Why not start there and try fixing it than accusing us of stealing your jobs? For crying out loud most of us here demand a wage far better than an average American for the said reasons. Don’t let any con man tell you “USA needs to be made great again, it’s already GREAT! We all came here chasing our dreams and to be successful”. I implore you to help yourself and please do quantify your arguments (with TC) than ignorant chants if you wish. Source: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/02/15/u-s-students-internationally-math-science/

U.S. students' academic achievement still lags that of their peers in many other countries
U.S. students' academic achievement still lags that of their peers in many other countries
Pew Research Center
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Uber âêîôûš Aug 12, 2018

Should’ve attached a poll 🤷‍♂️

Apple JamesTkirk OP Aug 12, 2018

Polls are stupid and they don’t work. If someone really wants to add their $0.02, I expect them to read thru and be able to make a cogent and reasonable argument in comments.

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NPcomplete Aug 12, 2018

I added a poll recently. 31 American says h1b do steal their job and 53 say they don’t.

Oscar tc/gtfo Aug 12, 2018

Well, I guess the big corporations are the one stealing American jobs and money. Look at all the iPhone we sold globally!!

Apple JamesTkirk OP Aug 12, 2018

Well, thats the truth ain’t it ? 😬

Microsoft tycoon1 Aug 12, 2018

US is already giving you a chance to stay and work here with pretty much the same civil rights a citizen gets except voting. Seriously man stop whining and complaining. Don’t try to cover up the deficiencies of your country by pointing out flaws in US. US has never promised you a visa. Don’t feel so entitled. Stop whining in every single post.

Apple JamesTkirk OP Aug 12, 2018

Your argument doesn’t make any sense. We’re not the ones whining. Did you even read the post ? Be able to make a cogent argument or GTFO?

Microsoft tycoon1 Aug 12, 2018

An intelligent person would’ve got the message pretty clear by now that you are not really welcome here, but you guys keep pushing. More RFEs, rejections, proposal to stop h4 ead, etc. I mean in how many more ways should the government make it clear that you’re not welcome here and should go back! Come on man have some dignity of your own!

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QHXW24 Aug 12, 2018

As someone who's hired for STEM jobs before, I agree. There's no stealing. H1Bs are a pain in the butt for employers. If we can find a US Citizen or Permanent Resident for the job we would. But there just aren't enough so H1Bs get used to fill the gaps.

Apple JamesTkirk OP Aug 12, 2018

Thank you acknowledging!

Cisco smosh Aug 12, 2018

They do steal jobs but at tier 4 and lower companies. Look at a company like dxc. It's a sweat shop where recruiting firms pimp out h1bs

MathWorks fXss35 Aug 15, 2018

I don't think anyone has against those sweat shops getting banned. The argument is usually wrt those doing meaningful work

Instacart bo&n32kop$ Aug 12, 2018

Op why are your replies so salty? Why you mad bro?

Apple JamesTkirk OP Aug 12, 2018

Only at the ignorant ones. Haha 😛

Gap NaNTechBro Aug 12, 2018

It’s supply and demand. American companies want specialization and save costs, contract companies fulfill this demand. H1Bs don’t steal jobs, businesses want to save costs and improve efficiency- that’s what the visa is designed for.

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AbolishH1B Aug 12, 2018

If you feel so entitled please go back to India and help build your own countries. I pity those who abandon their own country and folks for their own comfort. Enough of lecturing how much you help build American economy, US will stay strong even if we abandon H1Bs program. BTW you have a third rate education from a third world country. Stop feeling entitled because you are an imposter, and a cheat.

Lending Club AfaikB Aug 12, 2018

Many people with poor education from a third world poor country are making 300k and own two home in SF bay area. Your gripe will not stop them buying third one.

SanDisk Xpmo Aug 12, 2018

You pity your ancestors too, right?

Oracle beEvil Aug 12, 2018

the thing is young ppl in the US are not interested in STEM, call smart student nerdy. thats why we are here, TC 300k.

Lyft 2hia5b Aug 12, 2018

I'm the nerd who bangs your daughter

Oracle Pearman Aug 12, 2018

Sooner or later things will change , people who are abusing the system will be thrown out , people who are capable and can boost economies of other countries will leave for other countries - UK , Australia , new Zeland , Canada etc ... already started in the last 6 months 5-6 of my friends have left for India , Canada , Paris etc . Each one of them had a masters or PhD from US universities with a strong background in their areas of research