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How much do you tip?

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Calloupie

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Calloupiemore
Jan 30

I’m of the opinion that it is not a customer’s responsibility to always tip (a lot) the server at a restaurant or a cab driver or a hairdresser or a bell boy at a hotel. I know they’re underpaid. But isn’t that the responsibility of the employer instead of the customer to share the burden of the employee’s compensation?

I, as a customer, am already being overcharged for the services. On top of that, you want me to pay 15-20% of the services to the employees who are working for someone else but serving me for the services that I’m already paying for. I have a great deal of difficulty in understanding this system.

I also feel that because the customers are implicitly obliged to pay the tip, the employers are never incentivized to fairly pay their employees.

Can anyone share other perspectives?

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  • Spotify KXAo87
    If you want to overturn the system, it's not exactly brave to start by stiffing some working class ppl doing you services.

    Tip 20%
    Jan 301
    • Facebook pndubs
      ☝🏼 All of this
      Feb 1
  • Twilio / Otherg.unit
    You’ve clearly never worked in the service industry. Tipping an extra $2-3 is something you can afford and it means a lot to the people you’re giving the money to.
    Jan 307
    • Netflix
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      If you can afford to pay someone or something, doesn’t mean you should. I can afford to buy $100k car, but I won’t because that’s waste of money - not an exact analogy but you get the point.

      Are you guys saying that all service industry workers are underpaid and all service industry employers are assholes?
      Jan 30
    • Twilio / Otherg.unit
      Actually I mean that service work is hard and it’s not fun to cater to people. That’s why the tipping concept exists, so you can show some small amount of extra gratuity to someone who just helped you have a good experience. Most waiters for example make min wage and rely on tips for any amount of reasonable income. Some states even pay them less than min wage because they assume tips factor in.
      Jan 30
    • Facebook
      It is an interesting problem, tips can’t go to back-of-the-house (cooks etc), so they are unfair in that way. If as a restaurant owner you want to change it, you piss off FOH (waiters). Raising prices to make cooks earn more means that tips are even higher for waiters, while making customer unhappy...
      Jan 30
    • Twilio / Otherg.unit
      This is true but back of house also typically has a higher hourly wage than front
      Jan 30
    • Northrop Grumman / EngHowCouldYu
      An extra $2-3 dollars lol that’s not how it works
      Jan 30
    • LinkedIn / EngBrainbutt
      That’s not true usually tips get pooled and back of the house does get a cut, although smaller. They also make more hourly and don’t put up with customers
      Jan 30
    • Twilio / Otherg.unit
      Regardless, if you with your highly paid tech salary can’t afford to tip a few extra bucks to someone who provides you with good service...
      Jan 30
  • Halliburton heysorry
    Having worked in the service industry I tip 20% every time.

    I calculate it into the cost before making the purchase. If I can’t afford the tip I can’t afford the service.

    That being said, I do think it is an archaic system that should go away. I’m a fan of no tip restaurants that calculate it into the prices. Or ones that automatically add 20%.
    Jan 303
    • Apple gznV67
      So is it true some of them make >100k ($200-300 every day) on tips alone especially in fancier restaurants? Most of this is tax free as many of them just don’t report it.
      Jan 30
    • LinkedIn bttlsrv420
      @gznV67 that’s maybe once or twice a week
      Most other days it’s fractions of that and almost not worth the time. That’s why most people in service industry have to have multiple jobs.
      Jan 30
    • LinkedIn / EngBrainbutt
      @apple Possible to make that if they work weekends/Friday nights but they’re giving up those prime days/times of their life
      Jan 30
  • Airbnb greelo
    20% on average, typically 15-25% depending on quality of service. But...

    For the love god, TIP YOUR SERVERS PEOPLE! They are taxed 8% per bill automatically, so if you don’t tip, it comes out of their pockets. Plus, by convention, they’re paid about minimum wage and rely on tips to make a living. Most foreigners don’t realize this, but most in tech make good money, so don’t be cheap and please fairly support the people who serve you.

    http://archives.cpajournal.com/old/10428232.htm
    Jan 305
    • Amazon aws420
      Fuck that. It shouldn’t be my responsibility to pay for food and your employees.
      Jan 30
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      Sure, but you need to be careful when you don't tip. The server chased my friend in the street, cursing all along because he only tipped 10%. Crazy.
      Jan 30
    • Amazon aws420
      I’ve had that happen to me too. I made sure to take back my tip
      Jan 30
    • Airbnb greelo
      Not saying it’s great, but it’s the system, so deal with it. Don’t screw the little guy because you’re cheap.
      Jan 30
    • Amazon aws420
      It’s a shitty system that shouldn’t exist. It shouldn’t be my problem so it isn’t my problem
      Jan 30
  • Uber serf
    Your description was right in line with what Dwight Schrute from The Office thinks-
    Dwight Schrute:
    “Why tip someone for a job I'm capable of doing myself? I can deliver food, I can drive a taxi, I can and do cut my own hair. I did, however, tip my urologist. Because I am unable to pulverize my own kidney stones.”

    https://goo.gl/images/Nk6Dng
    Jan 300
  • Amazon / Legal
    Calloupie

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    OP
    So tipping essentially started in the 17th century in Europe where servers were slipped in more money “to insure Promptitude “... hence the word T.I.P. It trickled down to the US with European travelers coming to the NA or NA travelers picking it from Europe travels.

    But it worsened with the slavery age where the slaves (as servers or other jobs that have tipping) were not paid by their employers in the hope that they’ll make a few bucks from tips from customers. Slavery was abolished.. and the employers of the service industry continued to underpay their employees and the burden of fair compensation has gone on to the customers!! That’s my point. It’s not that I won’t pay when I buy a service. But is your employee’s compensation my responsibility..? I’m not sure. With customers paying high tips, the employers are discouraged from raising the minimum wages. If we don’t pay tips, it surely hurts the servers.. I wouldn’t want that.. but the system is flawed here!!
    Jan 301
    • Apple khNnHGdCb
      You aren’t heroically changing the system by not tipping, you’re fucking over an underpaid person struggling to get by. Lose your self absorbed self serving martyr complex and tip your wait staff.
      Jan 31
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    Do you guys tip for takeouts as well?
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    • Honeywell that1guy
      If someone who makes $2.13/hr is doing anything for me in their work capacity, I will tip them.
      It’s proportional to the amount of work though. Usually a few bucks.
      Jan 30
    • LinkedIn glasscave
      How do you have any idea how much they’re making? You ask every person before?
      Jan 30
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      Yeah @Honeywell do you assume that every service industry worker makes below minimum wage?
      Jan 30
    • Microsoft Mr 🌏
      If you tip takeouts, then start tipping at McDonald's too
      Jan 30
    • Honeywell that1guy
      I’m strictly talking about restaurant take out. Sure they may make more than minimum wage but it’s the most common for them to be making only a few dollars an hour plus tips. That’s how the service industry works. They dont pay their employees $15/hr plus tips to shove chinese food out the door. And if I tipped someone $3 who already made $15 for that hour then big f** deal, I can spare $3
      Jan 30
    • Honeywell that1guy
      People at McDonald’s are guaranteed to be making $15/hr and without getting into the messed up tipping culture we have here in America (it’s stupid), no I won’t pay someone I know is making non-service worker minimum wage I.e $15
      Jan 30
    • General Motors / Eng
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      I usually tip a dollar or two at restaurant depending on the order since taking order and packing up the food takes time. You are taking time from away the server from helping other customers in the restaurant.
      Feb 1
    • Microsoft Mr 🌏
      @bruh2000 what you wrote just doesn't make any sense.
      Should you tip the bus driver for the time spent stopping the bus and picking you up?
      Should you tip the cashier of a supermarket for the time spent scanning your grocery?
      Feb 1
    • Facebook
      If they’d be earning tips serving other customers? Sure. Tipping is stupid, but thats how things work, and you’re an asshole if you don’t do it.
      Feb 1
    • Microsoft Mr 🌏
      I prefer being an asshole than a dumbass
      Feb 1
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      Absolutely, I think with the takeout services, many people will start to avoid visiting restaurant to save that 20% 😀

      May be then this extra 20% burden goes away and employers start paying the fair wages
      Jan 30
    • New tLFu71
      No most people aren’t insane and don’t tip on take out at all.
      Jan 30
  • Amazon KHCr70
    Tipping system is dumb.

    But dont be an asshole and take it out on service staff. That would be exactly like some stranger yelling at you in the street because his amazon prime delivery was late.

    I tip 15% for sitdown restaurants, 10% for cafes, and 0 for anything with no service (like fast food)
    Jan 300
  • Amazon aws420
    0% on take out. If I could reach behind the counter and grab my food, I would. Tipping is BS especially with waiters making 15/hr now
    Jan 302
  • Cisco vzIq77
    I actively avoid situations that require tipping because I don’t like having to pay tips. That being said, I usually tip 15% if service was good.
    Jan 301
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      Same, I pick up my own food 😀, very much inspired by dwight schrute
      Jan 30
  • Amazon jefe_bezos
    Do whatever the hell you want. It’s a line. Not a cop.
    Jan 300
  • Apple khNnHGdCb
    $500k total comp, I always tip 20%+, delivery and take out 15%.
    Jan 302
    • Netflix
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      Curious, do you also donate to Church?
      Jan 30
    • Apple khNnHGdCb
      Nope, not religious
      Jan 30
  • Facebook
    I tip ~25% at restaurants (or more, if I sit at the bar and get entertained a lot), 10-15% for takeouts (depending on complexity of packing).

    I do get tipped with a bonus every half at work, though :)
    Jan 300
  • Apple khNnHGdCb
    If you make under $100k in the bay and don’t tip, fine by me. $100k-150k you’re a jerk. $150k-200k you’re an a-hole if you don’t tip. $250k+ fuck off you selfish pos.
    Jan 300
  • Bank of America Quackers
    I tip around 20% and adjust for service. Ive only ever not tipped once (bad exerience). Although i agree that employers should be providing better wages
    Jan 300
  • Amazon CiJN18
    Don’t hate the player, hate the game. Refusing to tip won’t change anything. That said, I usually tip 15% unless it’s someplace where I’m a regular. I figure if you’re going to drop good tips it should be someplace where you’ll come back and be recognized. Last Christmas I tipped 40% on a meal where the guy greets me by name when I walk in.
    Jan 311
  • Amazon goat1
    In Seattle minimum wage for tipped employees is $12, if working for a chain it's $16. Going by the arguments in this thread, should we tip less in Seattle? Some restaurants even add a Seattle wage tax, do you count this in as part of your tip?
    Jan 301
    • Amazon ya!
      Yes actually. I tip 15% in Seattle and 25% outside. If they added on some additional service charge already then I don't tip.
      Jan 30
  • Amazon aws420
    0 takeout. 10-15% on sit down with a waiter
    Feb 50
  • New / R&Dzorkan
    20 to 30% depending on how the price and how the rounding works out (eg; $5.73 bill becomes $7.00 after tip)
    Feb 50
  • Tektronix / Sales
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    Around 20%
    Feb 10
  • Microsoft DangerRngr
    I don’t believe in tip coordination... Larry David
    Jan 310
  • TD
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    15-20% pre-tax in Canada. 20% pre-tax always in the US.

    Never tip for takeout but of course, I tip delivery people.
    Jan 310
  • New monomo
    Never ever tip where there is no service.
    Ex: Togo orders at fast food etc.
    Jan 300
  • Apple JobsAtApp
    How do you know you are overcharged for the service?
    Jan 300
  • Salesforce US_Citizen
    Mr Pink, you make a fair and compelling argument
    Jan 300
  • LinkedIn 闷闷的🐷
    Quit tipping cold turkey and never worry about it again.
    Jan 300
  • Oracle / Mgmtyahboi
    I tip based on the quality of the service that was provided. My upper limit is 20%. Also, I rarely drop anything in a “tip jar”. They seem to be everywhere now.
    Jan 300
  • Netflix
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    Here is a scenario:
    When I go to pick up my own food, the cashier seems to expect tip and makes me sign the receipt (even through you don’t have to). Say I give tip to the cashier, it goes to restaurant/cashier.

    Now when I order through third party service like DoorDash, I don’t add a tip to the order but I tip the driver. Does this mean, by introducing this middleman, cashier/restaurant lost their tip? Or may be they built in the tip on extra prices that you pay via DoorDash.

    How does this work?
    Jan 300
  • General Motors / Eng
    mt_253

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    Large portion of income for the servers at restaurant is from tips. Some hourly rate is as low as 5$. For sit down meals, you should tip 15% to 20%.
    Jan 300

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