How much does a VP of engineering at AMEX earn?

Amazon HouseBezos
Mar 20 13 Comments

Just curious... What is the band like for
1. senior engineers
2. directors
3. VP

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  • American Express bugrama
    For Phoenix max base for senior is around 170k, staff/director and principal I think both can go up to 208k. Usually seniors get around 110-140k. VP at amex is like L7 and director is like L6 at Amazon in scope. Staff is like L6 sde. Bonus at top rating can be up to 40-50% In a good year. Average rating is like 25%. Top rating as a senior also gets you about 10k in stocks total with 3 year vesting at 1/3rd each. Staff and Prinicpal can make higher. Great 401k match of 6% $-$. Wlb is amazing, Phoenix area you can get 39-43 leaves a year as senior, I think higher levels you can get 5 more days off. TC at top of the band and performance can be 180-220k, 220-260k, 270-320k for senior, staff and principal respectively - extremely rare, if you have a high base your manager most likely would give you ok rating. Very political, slow in pace, lot of lifers and if your boss worked with them for years don't join that team, women pushed because of just gender. Good for rest and vest/coasting and tech focussed lately but not tech company - you wont feel like 1st class citizen but won't feel 2nd class either. Most product mangers r not good. Almost every tech manager is useless, some decent directors and VP - Usually the ones who joined amex in last 3-4 years or are <45 in age. All numbers for Phoenix/Florida/SLC.
    Mar 21 5
    • Amazon HouseBezos
      OP
      Amazing details. Sorry for not being specific...but do you know details for NYC?
      Mar 21
    • American Express bugrama
      Phoenix is categorized as level 3 by col and bay area and new York as level 1. I'm not sure about numbers but I think base is 15-20% more in those areas. Don't think you get anything else other than this.
      Mar 21
    • Amazon HouseBezos
      OP
      Okay... But I'm not sure if the TC correlates with L6 and L7 at Amazon bc they earn 370K+ and 480K+ respectively which is a lot higher than the listed TC for director and VP at AMEX.
      Mar 21
    • American Express bugrama
      I don't think anyone is making similar TC at same levels between these two companies. By the way keep in mind 220k for a single person in Phoenix is like 290-300k in Bay area/new York, you would have much shorter commute and as I said wlb is amazing. People here go to India for 6 weeks. Work from home for 3-4 weeks in that time frame. No one joins amex over amazon for TC, learning, career growth and brand. It's a very personal choice what you want. Amex beats hands down almost every other company in wlb and job security.
      Mar 21
    • Amazon HouseBezos
      OP
      I see. Makes sense.
      Mar 21
  • Amazon o71iy04a
    Bank VP in tech = L5, in management = L6
    Mar 20 5
    • Amazon HouseBezos
      OP
      How do you know this?
      Mar 20
    • Morgan Stanley / Mgmt '' '' '' '
      VP at amex is not the same as VP in retail and investment banks. They are more senior but not as senior as VP in FANG.
      Mar 20
    • Google hooli.xyz
      Yup, a bank can have thousands of VPs. It is not the same as a VP in a tech company, who are executives. Bank VPs are just senior personnel.

      https://www.thebalancecareers.com/job-titles-1287163
      Mar 20
    • BNY Mellon 🍉..
      Mostly true, yes, but even in a bank, a VP is technically a corporate executive.
      Mar 21
    • American Express D.BCooper
      This is true. A director here is when you start managing people. Vp is a traditional director
      Apr 1
  • Oracle studydown
    Doubt amex has enough of a presence here to have VP or even director comp bands posted
    Mar 20 0

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