How normal is manager asking team to put tasks adding up to 80 hours/sprint?

New / Eng poRd04
Sep 22, 2018 16 Comments

2 week sprint = 2*40 hrs

Is this normal in other tech companies such as FAANG, Microsoft, Unicorns?

The team does both ML software development a d ML research. Putting hours in feels like manufacturing or retail.

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  • Uber truckyeah
    You offended by having to put in hours? Awe
    Sep 22, 2018 0
  • Microsoft / Eng Tier 1
    Uh this is why you should use “points” not hours
    Sep 22, 2018 9
    • New / IT
      sqrteng

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      sqrtengmore
      We use to have that and it becomes a big back and forth between teammates trying to assign points. Some teammates always tried to get more points for a simple task.How did you decide points? Do you think points are assigned evenly across all team members?
      Sep 22, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng Tier 1
      Point poker theoretically fixes this
      Sep 22, 2018
    • Amazon
      \°_°/

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      There are still TPMs who end up with some random correlation between story points and hours. Very definition of Agile clearly mentions that story points and hours are unrelated, but some people don't get it.
      Sep 22, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng Tier 1
      The points account for creative energy and breakthroughs which might happen in the shower. Smh.
      Sep 22, 2018
    • Biggest waste of time
      Sep 22, 2018
  • Microsoft JohnSnow🐲
    We usually estimate 80% utilization, 20% for email and meetings.
    Sep 22, 2018 0
  • Microsoft / Eng ComputePls
    The manager doesn’t believe your estimate, she thinks you blowing it up.
    Sep 22, 2018 0
  • New / IT
    sqrteng

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    sqrtengmore
    We estimate 5 hours of coding.The rest is meeting and team code review
    Sep 22, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Mgmt good_bad
    80? Try 120
    Sep 22, 2018 0
  • Microsoft WoCE36
    I think my old company discounts the work hours by .6 towards sprint, because there are meetings that don’t involve coding
    Sep 22, 2018 0