Tech IndustryJul 15, 2018
AmazonPanz172

How relaxed is the work at FB and Google?

Got offers from both, but not sure which one to choose. Don’t want to regularly work 50hrs/week. FB TC is higher than Googles, but would Google have better WLB? Current TC: 200k L5 FB: 280k Google: 260k

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Oracle Santraadmi Jul 15, 2018

Which levels were you offered for FB and Google

Facebook Leo Messi Jul 15, 2018

Apprenrtly t4

Apple cho Chang Jul 15, 2018

Might be google L3 tho

Facebook Leo Messi Jul 15, 2018

I’d go google given 20k diff in comp.cetainly google has teams that are busy, try to make Goode decisions on team march.

Oscar tc/gtfo Jul 15, 2018

^

Facebook XLhI02 Jul 15, 2018

Hmm, interesting TC. If you break out your offers more in terms of level and base/RSU/bonus, you might be able to get some advice on negotiating a better offer.

Amazon Panz172 OP Jul 15, 2018

why is it interesting? is it not within the normal bands?

Facebook XLhI02 Jul 15, 2018

It may be a bit low but I can't say without knowing what level.

Airbnb Mondaye Jul 15, 2018

Search around blind for the thread where FBers talk about WLB. At FB you’ll work 50% more and get a 7% boost in comp... choice is clear here.

Amazon eelj01 Jul 15, 2018

Word on the street is that FB’s engineering culture is similar to Amazon, albeit with better perks and more money: “creative” coding practices and mountains of tech debt; putting the “W” in WLB; junior-heavy talent distribution. Try to get an offer match from Google; I can still remember a time when Google was pretty aggressive about beating FB offers, specifically, even if it meant going out of band.

Facebook XLhI02 Jul 15, 2018

I think there's a grain of truth to this, but not more than a grain. The reason I say that is that ex-Amazon folks at FB really stick out culturewise, especially if they're trying to recreate the Amazon culture at FB. So there's clearly a difference. That said, it's true that there's way too much tech debt and incentives can be pretty out of line.

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FUQYD Jul 15, 2018

TC breakdown and YoE please

Google 🕷e Jul 15, 2018

Fb if you care about career growth.

Facebook wjxc Jul 15, 2018

Why?

Facebook XLhI02 Jul 15, 2018

I think FB is generally known for having a quicker path to E5.

Facebook jimdaw Jul 15, 2018

Google's environment is just as stressful in its own way, much more bureaucratic, and you have less control over which team you land on. FB has teams with the WLB you're looking for, just make sure to ask about it when you're picking a team.

Amazon Panz172 OP Jul 15, 2018

please elaborate on how google is just as stressful? genuinely curious