Need help navigating an issue I face in office. My manager is completely hands off * He does not get involved in design/architecture reviews. Leaves it to me to deal with other teams architects/leads when they raise any objections. * Does not have gitlab/github/bitbucket account. Does not know what git repositories I contribute to. * Does not know about build/CI pipeline, our deployment cycle. * Does not know about our dependency on other teams. It's very difficult to make him explain that when our dependencies break, we are slowed down. * Does not value some of the tasks I work on like adding integration tests, refactoring and devops'y tasks. OOTH, praises me for simple demos I do in our monthly demos(i.e only sees functional changes). * Does not get involved in work break up into stories, tasks etc. Asks me how long a feature will take (usually involves a minimum of 1-2 months of work) and I break down into stories, tasks and share it with him. He mostly knows about our product offerings, release cycles, who is working on what, PTO's, recruiting, meeting with clients regarding our team's capabilities(although for detail's, I get pulled into this. ). While my manager is not non-technical (he has a Phd, but no code/publications in the last 10 years), I feel like I am having a tough time explaining what I do to my manager and get some recognition Q : For those who have been in similiar situation, how do you convince your boss that your work is valuable. TC : 200K , YoE 5 EDIT : Leaving is tough choice because I have been in my past two companies for less than 2 years( 1st job -> very low TC, 2nd job -> startup crashed) and don't want to hop too much
Managers don't get involved in all that. Some managers are in the tech ladder and they may but many focus on roadmap and people management and such. Job responsibilities you defined are of a tech lead.
Is it the norm that managers don't even try to bother with the code and architecture ? How will the managers recognize if someone is bluffing ?
Those are the responsibilities of seniors like architect or tech lead. Again, some managers are technically good and are in the tech managerial ladder. Many managers don't bother about all this.
Don't try to convince a person who has closed their mind. With that TC and YoE, I would leave.
Leetcode, Quit, comeback and share your TC.
If your manager is giving you free reign to lead, why are you complaining? It sounds like you aren’t ready to be a lead.
So amazing! And true! ☝🏿This Manager is the best leader you’ll ever have in your career. Guidance comes from you asking for advice. Until then, do the right thing, push hard, and get business done. You’re extremely lucky!
Yes, its an opportunity but he needs to get recognition for it. Looks like OP is not getting the recognition.
Lots of people will die to get a manager like that. Most managers this hands off that I've seen are all pretty cool, know their stuff and know what every single person in team does but just doesn't express that they do. What if you get a micro manager in your next job like that Microsoft peepee guy in that other thread? You'll then realize you missed out on a great opportunity...
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Define everything. Be the tech lead. It is a great opportunity for you.
Great advice. I had the exact same situation and did as Uber suggested. Promo came 6 months later.