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How to deal with dumb teammates

Express Scripts / Eng
blahmeh

Express ScriptsEng

PRE
Wells Fargo, Thomson Reuters
blahmehmore
7d

If you picked help them, any suggestions on how to approach them and how much effort should be spent.

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  • Intuit gyrshj
    Just punch them in the face
    7d7
    • O'Reilly Media / Eng
      Megan J

      O'Reilly MediaEng

      PRE
      Amazon
      BIO
      Yes
      Megan Jmore
      Dude what the fuck is your problem
      7d
    • Intuit gyrshj
      Wtf is ur problem, swear I am gonna punch u in the face if I know u
      7d
    • O'Reilly Media / Eng
      Megan J

      O'Reilly MediaEng

      PRE
      Amazon
      BIO
      Yes
      Megan Jmore
      Learn to respect women you tard
      7d
    • Uber xkhd80
      Is Megan fr rn?
      7d
    • Intuit gyrshj
      Nvm, let’s find a spot to smash
      7d
    • O'Reilly Media / Eng
      Megan J

      O'Reilly MediaEng

      PRE
      Amazon
      BIO
      Yes
      Megan Jmore
      As real as one can be, uber 💯, got something to say?
      7d
    • PayPal unionfind
      If you have to ask for respect, then I see where the argument is going!🤣
      7d
  • New / Eng
    Flatline

    NewEng

    BIO
    I’ve become really good at getting shit done. I’m not even joking. On top of this, people love working with me, which to me is the biggest prize.
    Flatlinemore
    In my experience, you’re probably the issue yourself.
    7d6
    • PayPal unionfind
      You're a fcking idiot!
      7d
    • Express Scripts / Eng
      blahmeh

      Express ScriptsEng

      PRE
      Wells Fargo, Thomson Reuters
      blahmehmore
      OP
      Please elaborate
      7d
    • PayPal unionfind
      Blaming yourself and having 0 confidence is probably the definition of an idiot. OP clearly states that teammate is issue.
      7d
    • Express Scripts / Eng
      blahmeh

      Express ScriptsEng

      PRE
      Wells Fargo, Thomson Reuters
      blahmehmore
      OP
      I actually wanted to hear this out. How could i be the issue myself?
      7d
    • Square gdy57
      People who place themselves above others are often toxic to the team. Are they actually stupid, or are you just so high off your own farts that you think they’re beneath you?

      I’ve seen this too many times.
      7d
    • Express Scripts / Eng
      blahmeh

      Express ScriptsEng

      PRE
      Wells Fargo, Thomson Reuters
      blahmehmore
      OP
      This is interesting. I do think i am a good swe. I try to help everyone. But get frustrated when a solution is not executed properly.
      Each day i try to give them the benefit of the doubt, but each time 👎
      7d
  • PayPal unionfind
    I need answer to this question as well! There are people in my team who leave at 4 and I work until 6.30 daily. I have pushed more code into prod then them so don't you come at saying I weak at my work
    7d4
    • Express Scripts / Eng
      blahmeh

      Express ScriptsEng

      PRE
      Wells Fargo, Thomson Reuters
      blahmehmore
      OP
      I have some who barely make an 11 am standup.
      7d
    • Express Scripts / Eng
      blahmeh

      Express ScriptsEng

      PRE
      Wells Fargo, Thomson Reuters
      blahmehmore
      OP
      Should i be a timekeeper? This is soo dumb.. am I babysitting??
      7d
    • PayPal unionfind
      Their contribution is literally 0. And yet they make same TC. Smh
      7d
    • New
      edalric

      New

      BIO
      full metal alchemist
      edalricmore
      Probably you're taking on more work than others, so learn to say no.
      7d
  • O'Reilly Media / Eng
    Megan J

    O'Reilly MediaEng

    PRE
    Amazon
    BIO
    Yes
    Megan Jmore
    How dumb? Post examples
    7d2
    • Express Scripts / Eng
      blahmeh

      Express ScriptsEng

      PRE
      Wells Fargo, Thomson Reuters
      blahmehmore
      OP
      No idea how to complete something, yet a big YES, im working on it every meeting.
      7d
    • Express Scripts / Eng
      blahmeh

      Express ScriptsEng

      PRE
      Wells Fargo, Thomson Reuters
      blahmehmore
      OP
      Unit tests with 100% coverage.. no asserts! SMH
      7d
  • Anthem antmannn
    Post on blind 😜
    7d0
  • Express Scripts / Eng
    blahmeh

    Express ScriptsEng

    PRE
    Wells Fargo, Thomson Reuters
    blahmehmore
    OP
    One of the problem is to stay motivated yourself when You have these useless dead weight who are just getting by...
    7d3
    • New / Eng
      Flatline

      NewEng

      BIO
      I’ve become really good at getting shit done. I’m not even joking. On top of this, people love working with me, which to me is the biggest prize.
      Flatlinemore
      I totally understand. Been there before. The better you perform and outshine then, the quicker they are found and dealt with my management. If management isn’t smart enough to deal with them, maybe you’re working for the wrong outfit :)
      7d
    • New
      edalric

      New

      BIO
      full metal alchemist
      edalricmore
      It is also extremely hard to find & hire people who are "ninjas" for a lack of better word. So blaming the management is like blaming the govt for everything. But dead weights should try to learn & get better. Don't you have performance reviews.
      7d
    • Express Scripts / Eng
      blahmeh

      Express ScriptsEng

      PRE
      Wells Fargo, Thomson Reuters
      blahmehmore
      OP
      Thats is soo true. Super hard to find and hire good people. Too many fakes
      7d
  • It is called team for a reason. You need to walk at the pace of the weakest link to be a good team player.
    7d2
    • Express Scripts / Eng
      blahmeh

      Express ScriptsEng

      PRE
      Wells Fargo, Thomson Reuters
      blahmehmore
      OP
      Wouldnt that contradict the actual point of the team itself, to make the product awesome... fast.
      7d
    • If there are many dumb guys then the team is just not good enough but you still need to support each and every member! As a lone wolf, you can only take it so far.
      7d
  • New / Eng
    Flatline

    NewEng

    BIO
    I’ve become really good at getting shit done. I’m not even joking. On top of this, people love working with me, which to me is the biggest prize.
    Flatlinemore
    They can’t really be stupid, if they can’t complete a task this indicates an issue with how they are managed. A task has a due date. When too many due dates are missed, they are probably incompetent or unfit for that specific task. There’s a difference between stupid and incompetent. If you hired them, you chose poorly. If someone else hired them, you go to them and show them the number of times due dates have been missed, and let them deal with the issue.
    7d1
    • Express Scripts / Eng
      blahmeh

      Express ScriptsEng

      PRE
      Wells Fargo, Thomson Reuters
      blahmehmore
      OP
      Should i feel guilty about getting them in trouble?
      7d
  • Facebook zuckks
    Do they atleast put some effort on their side and do some due diligence befofe asking for help ? You should flag this to your manager as this doesnt seem like a constructive behavior
    7d2
    • Express Scripts / Eng
      blahmeh

      Express ScriptsEng

      PRE
      Wells Fargo, Thomson Reuters
      blahmehmore
      OP
      Even showing up on time has been an issue.
      I am trying not be biased with my opinions of them but i sincerely dont think so.
      7d
    • Facebook zuckks
      That sucks, its not fun to work with lazy co-workers.
      7d
  • Google / Eng
    prodaccess

    GoogleEng

    BIO
    Top Contributor or GTFO
    prodaccessmore
    What makes you think you are the exception when all your team mates are dumb?
    7d1
    • Express Scripts / Eng
      blahmeh

      Express ScriptsEng

      PRE
      Wells Fargo, Thomson Reuters
      blahmehmore
      OP
      I am entertaining this option as well. In my defence all the solutions has to come through me including prod issues. CI build breaks, no one has any idea whats going on. Critical feature needed? I have to pick it up or its not making the deadline.
      7d
  • Oracle / DesignMiddleWest
    OP are you out of St. Louis? Just move to a city with a higher percentage of smart people. Part of the problem is that ExpressScripts isn’t necessarily getting top talent.
    7d2
    • Express Scripts / Eng
      blahmeh

      Express ScriptsEng

      PRE
      Wells Fargo, Thomson Reuters
      blahmehmore
      OP
      moving is not really an option right now!
      7d
    • Oracle / DesignMiddleWest
      Go to 1904Labs then. Lots of smart people there, and interesting work.
      7d
  • Commvault born2bwild
    Actually dumb guys make the best product be dumber
    7d0
  • Airbnb Knzx
    At my last company I sat next to a dude who was literally 60 years old. Needed to drink 12 cups of coffee a day just to focus and stay awake (not exaggerating). The guy was a disaster. Would get stuck on the same problem with the same fix day after day. Refused to learn new languages or technology. Would forget things constantly. Couldn't tell you details of what he was actually working on without blanking. Frequently asked questions that were answered in slack or in meetings he was a part of. Was a dead weight on the team. Some people are just a lost cause and it's best to get rid of them. No matter how hard to you try to help some people are just C-tier and will never get better.
    7d0
  • Apple / Engclaimer
    Give them Omega3 supplements and wait for a month...
    4d0

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