Received phone interviews from amazon, LinkedIn, Google, dropbox, snap, uber and a whole bunch of smaller companies. Everyone is ready to offer the new grad role(SDE1, IC3, L3), but no one is keen to offer a higher level (SDE2, IC4, L4). I tried to strong arm some of them into giving me a higher level by saying "if you offer me a new grad role, I'm not interested" but that didn't go in my favor.
How do I negotiate an interview for level two?
- It's all in interview performance. If you didn't get it, you didn't get it, and you don't deserve it.
There are people with 1.5 yoe getting l4 at those places and they were also working on impactful things. You're not as special as you think, and you don't deserve a chance if you didn't show a reason to get one.Apr 1 2
- Google / Eng Wulpertingkdks02 - These companies are filled with great engineers and inundated with high-achieving applicants. You have almost no time in the industry, and no matter how brilliant you think you are, there are lots of other people like you out there.
You will be leveled based on your interview performance, just like everyone else.
- it’s making me sick to see the level of entitlement. You know I can sympathize with OP though - they probably haven’t worked long enough to hit some road bumps and met stronger engineers and that can be a humbling experience. As a recent hardworking student it’s easy to feel confident and capable of anything.Jul 27 0
- DXC Technology / Eng bbline2Just out of curiosity, how do you manage to interview with so many companies?
- Google sack lunchL4 isn't even a new grad role, L3 is. experience can be matched by coding ability, but maturity and leadership are required for L5. my guess is you need a couple more years before you're ready for L5 roles. or, you come in L4 and prove us all wrong and you'll get L5 within a year - 1.5 years. with only 2 yoe that would still be a super fast ascent to L5
- I'm surprised Amazon isn't prepared to interview you for SDE2. I interviewed for SDE2 at Amazon with 1.5 yoe. Google underlevels everybody, so no surprises there.
- I’d wait it out another year at Apple, then switch if you want to get the L4. Change teams internally if you want.
If you come in as an L3, you’d have to fight for a promotion to L4, which may be hard to do within a year.
- If you do well in the interview for Uber, they might consider you for L4 after the fact. It won't change the interview format.