How will HR 1044 impact IT services workers?

Cerner RY32SP
Jul 13 48 Comments

A lot of us immigrants to the US in IT, how will HR 1044 impact IT Servivce Companies in the US?

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  • EPAM Systems knako!MF2E
    For me it basically means no GC and get out of country in 3 years. Very sad! Unfair..
    Jul 16 13
    • FactSet kheera
      Dude its not diversity, its skills. If your country can produce enough folks with desired skillset m, you will get into the list. Dont cry like a baby of blaming a country which is constantly putting up people eligible for gc. Get some big boy pants and suck it up.
      Jul 16
    • EPAM Systems knako!MF2E
      I don't think that your country possess some exclusive skills. They are just big in numbers, relatively cheap in salary and largely disposable for big corps. That's how it is.
      Jul 16
    • FactSet kheera
      Skills are the same dude. You certainly dont seem to possess super high quality skills too. Or else you wouldn’t have to worry about being in the enormous pool.

      What you bring as 1, my country brings in 1000s. They deserve to be in the list as much as you do.

      Also, relatively cheap in salary is a myth. To even be in the list for gc, a certain wage level has to be justified. Can you fake your gc with less wage? I don’t think so. Uscis is not stupid.

      Also, for the corps, everyone is disposable. You, me or anybody else unless you are getting an o1 for exceptional abilities.

      If you fall in the general category, respect others who are in the same category otherwise you are questioning ur own caliber in a way...
      Jul 16
    • Microsoft waddaheck
      Over half of GC petitions are by Indian agencies. That means way more than half of Indian applicants are from them and Indians in big tech are fewer. It also means GC will be filed for tech workers primarily as Indians will take up most of the GCs (Chinese are significantly lower in number). Average salary of the staffing agencies is lower and doesn’t include stock awards.
      Jul 19
    • Microsoft waddaheck
      India has a system, network and information that facilitates the immigration for tech workers not to mention many transfer from local office. This is why large countries can have advantage in immigration easily. Other countries have many skilled workers but don’t have such pipelines. Therefore they usually go to study in US (often BS or PhD) and get a job. If you look at LinkedIn profiles, you will find many engineers from other countries studied in highly ranked US colleges compared to Indians whose past experience is either local office or consulting agencies or lower ranked masters degree.
      Jul 19
  • TC?
    Jul 13 1
  • Avanade MohyCS
    Probably bring down demand as Indians swarm in willing to work for peanuts.
    Jul 16 3
    • Microsoft uuuuuuu
      Apparently, Indians are the richest (by country) community in USA. Go figure!!
      Jul 31
    • Avanade MohyCS
      I’m talking relative to other software devs, when other communities are too busy killing each other or pursuing non-stem fields, I’m not impressed. When they’re all actually competing, I’ll be impressed.
      Aug 2
    • Microsoft uuuuuuu
      You're just speculating. Your argument won't hold any ground in a side by side comparison. Be it any field.
      You're probably using salary of a IT services employee to argue that Indians get paid less in a software job, which is not the right comparison.
      Aug 2
  • EPAM Systems knako!MF2E
    Will be good for India and China nationals.
    Jul 16 5
    • FactSet kheera
      Lets put it this way. It might do right by the people who have been legally waiting for almost a decade in this list.
      Jul 16
    • EPAM Systems knako!MF2E
      Sure, but there is a huge backlog
      Jul 16
    • FactSet kheera
      Yep backlog is a side effect of not having proper policy in the first place. HR1044 is not a side effect of backlog.

      It has to be cleaned one way or other. May be they’ll do right this time..
      Jul 16
    • Microsoft waddaheck
      I doubt it is good for Chinese. They only need to wait for 4-5 years now. With quota removal, people in the queue will be processed first. There is a thread by an Oracle guy who analyzed how many years it will take for others. Think about this. Quota is 7% and Indians need to wait for like 100 years. That is already 700% to process them. Add people who had been in the queue from other countries as well. I don’t know if this is correct but simple speculation shows it will take longer.
      Jul 19
    • Amazon 0x12h
      Bad for Chinese, current waiting 3 years
      Jul 27
  • EPAM Systems knako!MF2E
    For everyone else - effectively a green card ban till 2033
    Jul 16 3
    • FactSet kheera
      Its first cum first serve basis. Whoever is in the list, gets it. It is not about nationality.
      Jul 16
    • EPAM Systems 1️⃣
      Wow that's bad, US have enough workforce by itself?
      Jul 16
    • FactSet kheera
      Sorry i didn’t understand ur response.
      Jul 16
  • Walmart.com the-smart1
    All other nationals on h1b already got their GC. This bill helps to get GC to Indians/Chinese who are unfairly left out from 2009. Also, this would free them from enslavement by employers who are taking advantage of those on limbo by paying less.
    Jul 18 3
    • EPAM Systems knako!MF2E
      You forgot to mention that all other nationals now will be left out till 2033. And those on L visas will be basically kicked out of the country. Unlike swarms of Indians on their infinite H1s
      Jul 18
    • Walmart.com the-smart1
      Exactly, law was broke, and they are fixing now. Stand in line like everyone else. Why should there be certain bias against few countries? End of day companies only care about skills, they don't care where they are from. At least now, current administration decided to fix things before it's too late. If this would have been addressed 10 years ago when similar bill was originally proposed, these problems would have been avoided or minimized.
      Jul 18
    • Microsoft uuuuuuu
      @epam and then you will understand how it feels to be in backlog. Get back in line!!
      Jul 31
  • IBM wFos55
    It does go on to day that it is going to reserve 15% of EB-2, EB-3 and EB-5 visas for applicants not from the two countries with the largest amount of applicants. It doesn't say anything about if they are going to increase or decrease the amount of visas given though.
    Jul 16 9
    • FactSet kheera
      When indians and chinese start moving out to better options.
      Jul 16
    • EPAM Systems knako!MF2E
      I doubt that is ever gonna happen.
      Jul 16
    • Microsoft ouch1tnow
      For tech, US is the only place with unreasonable high salary, I don’t think they want to go to other countries. They are here for money not for some American dream.
      Jul 30
    • FactSet kheera
      American dream includes the possibility of earning money. And if you are not the one to earn money, why don’t you go to India. A while lot of AI, ML, IoT, Blockchain development is also happening there..
      Jul 31
    • EPAM Systems knako!MF2E
      The point it's a hypocrisy to say that "international skilled specialists" aka cheap low quality workforce will leave for other countries. Y'all will stay here no matter what just to not to return home (because of unbearable conditions).
      Jul 31
  • FactSet kheera
    Its not gonna pass.
    Jul 16 0
  • Cognizant jha kaash
    It means those who have GC cannot get a free pass.. right now most jobs require GC or citizenship and even if you know nothing , your GC can get you hired with lucrative offers .. same is not the case for those on visa
    Jul 16 1
    • FactSet kheera
      Not knowing and getting hired...
      This kind of bullshit has got us to where we currently are.

      Stop friggin’ rigging the system and then think justice is not served..
      Jul 16
  • my id will tell
    Jul 19 0