I Belong at Amazon

Microsoft Claiborne
Mar 18 35 Comments

I have a strong desire to be an Amazonian, but have found it exceptionally hard to get a simple phone interview.

A few years ago, I joined Microsoft immediately after graduation and was ecstatic. At that time, I didn’t get any bites from Amazon. Not taking the opportunity right in front of me for granted, I embraced Microsoft.

I started in a non-engineering role. This role, traditionally, is not a high trajectory role. Despite this, I busted my butt to get to Engineering as a PM. The job wasn’t sexy at all, the content was dry, my team wasn’t necessarily shooting for the stars, but I worked my tail off until I found myself in Redmond, WA - as a feature PM.

A couple years have passed since this point. I’ve learned A LOT. Amongst these learnings:

- I flourish in a high octane environment
- I am willing to work more hours, if it means my work will have actual impact.
- Microsoft is not the top dog in Greater Seattle, when it comes to having a finger on the pulse of the customer.
- I can’t stand 520 :)
- Much, much more

This entire time, in the back of my mind, I’ve had this little voice telling me to make the move to Amazon. I know it’s where I belong. I firmly believe my drive, skill set, and outlook aligns with Amazon, versus other companies.

The problem?

I cannot seem to get a phone interview. Here are some of the things I’ve done:

- Polished resume
- Ensured LinkedIn was updated
- Proactively reached out to Amazon recruiters (via LinkedIn) with an intro and specific job ID in mind
- Applied via Career Site for several positions

I’m being very fair with what I apply to.

I am not one to give up, I’m going to keep on applying. However, if anyone has any advice that could make this process more efficient, it’d be awesome! I’ve seen so many stories on here about making the exact same transition from Microsoft to Amazon, I’d love nothing more than to add mine to that list.

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  • Flagged by the community.

    • Microsoft Claiborne
      OP
      Can you elaborate please? I genuinely want to understand where you’re coming from.
      Mar 18
    • Booking.com yRHnJk8-fl
      Wtf
      Mar 18
    • Microsoft Claiborne
      OP
      Ok, looks like you elaborated with the addition of that quote. Honestly, all I’m saying is that I perform a lot better in that kind of environment. I’m not sitting here saying I’m some sort of prodigy, I promise!
      Mar 18
    • New / Eng pHXp44
      Don’t listen to him. I didn’t read it as you being entitled. I read it as you being hungry for more.
      Mar 18
    • Oscar 🐨koala
      “Content is from a blocked user.” Wish I could read it though.
      Mar 18
    • Flagged by the community.

    • Oscar 🐨koala
      Oh I remember him now. Someone flag him and ban him.
      Mar 18
    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay
      If I’m so wrong, why doesn’t OP work at Amazon yet? Why hasn’t he even had one interview?
      Mar 18
    • Because companies make mistakes and applying to companies on their job site has a low acceptance rate in general. Shouldn’t shit on someone who aims high and is willing to work for it
      Mar 18
    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay
      This is true and I’m not. If the OP is based on the resume, I see why.
      Mar 18
  • Microsoft interesti
    If they are not interested in you, your experience must have not matched at theirs at all. Why don’t you move to a team that has more relevancy such as Azure?
    Mar 18 0
  • Amazon McKnziBzos
    Why is Amazon that appealing to you?
    Mar 18 5
    • Microsoft Claiborne
      OP
      They get it done, simple as that. When their name is attached to something, I have a sense of confidence about that something. It’s definitely something I want to be a part of!
      Mar 18
    • Amazon jtGV66
      Let’s get him hired. I can’t wait to see how quickly your views of Amazon are dashed 😂
      Mar 18
    • Microsoft Claiborne
      OP
      Vent-worthy things happening throughout the day? 100% expected. At the end of the day, I’m confident I’ll be proud of what I do for a living, and who I’m doing it for. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong. I just want the chance to find out!
      Mar 18
    • Google topCon
      You must be young. The novelty of a new company will wear off pretty quickly. I work for the man to get a paycheck. Nothing more, nothing less.
      Mar 18
    • Microsoft Claiborne
      OP
      That’s the spirit!
      Mar 18
  • Oracle //:://
    It’s my dream == I belong. With this logic sense you won’t pass the interview.
    Mar 18 0
  • Amazon amazons
    When you say you joined Microsoft a few years after graduation, do you mean undergrad or grad school? If undergrad, that would be the reason. We don’t really hire jr PMs at Amazon. Even our most junior L6 PMs usually come from elite first tier business schools and require 5 years of relevant experience. Experienced industry hires usually have far more experience than that even as an L6. Not sure I’ve seen any team hire an L5 PM externally, but they do exist usually for internal transfers who are new to the PM job family.
    Mar 18 4
    • Microsoft Claiborne
      OP
      Undergrad. This makes sense, thank you for the insight! I honestly didn’t know this.
      Mar 18
    • Amazon amazons
      Depending on the type of experience you have at Microsoft, you may be able to get an interview for a relevant L5 PM role. If you want to msg me a link to your resume, I can either give you more specific feedback on the gaps or try to refer you in to roles that may be a fit.
      Mar 18
    • Amazon amazons
      Product or program manager? According to the job guidelines product management family starts at L5, and I’ve never seen an L4. Even L5 PMs are VERY rare. There are L4 program managers though.
      Mar 19
    • Amazon amazons
      *updates - there’s a few l4 PMs recently added on the system, but most appear to be tenured internal transfers from another role and a different business title. L4 Pm does not technically exist within the PM job family per our internal systems, and there’s zero L4 PM jobs posted. Unless this was a brand new program for this year, most likely your friend was hired as an L4 program manager but likely tells everyone he’s a pm.
      Mar 19
  • Microsoft IOBF26
    Generally speaking...

    For PMs they look for MBA

    For TPMs they look for solid tech background plus CS degree
    Mar 18 0
  • Indeed CDwY37
    network and connect with hiring managers directly
    Mar 18 0
  • Microsoft oYtsVbL
    Amazon recruiters keep spamming my LinkedIn inbox. I have nothing on my profile too. I’m a SWE with 10+ yoe though so don’t know what the market is for PM.
    Mar 18 0
  • Send me your resume. My organization is hiring.
    Mar 18 0
  • Amazon alGQ52
    Dm me your resume, we are hiring PM’s.
    Mar 18 3
    • SunTrust Dr Dang
      if you don’t mind referring, may I send my resume. looking for new job as PM
      Mar 18
    • Amazon alGQ52
      yes dm me please
      Mar 18
    • SunTrust Dr Dang
      Sent
      Mar 21
  • MathWorks p8Rz2u
    Must be a thing with PM. My LinkedIn has barely anything and Amazon recruiters always reach out to me, same for all of my SWE friends. Maybe they don't have that many PM roles?

    Trying to get a referral might work better.
    Mar 18 1
    • Microsoft Claiborne
      OP
      That’s what interesting. Typically, there’s a healthy amount of PM roles on the site (I’d say around 5 posted every two weeks in my “bucket”).
      Mar 18
  • Twitch RbOv54
    So... Have you reached out to anyone working on teams you want to work on? Have you gotten coffee meetings with folks on that team?
    Mar 18 0

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