I coast at work a lot... do you?

New / Eng Appesinq
Oct 17, 2018 28 Comments

I work at a startup where I lost complete faith in management and the new swe people who are being brought on board.

Being a very early employee and having built major projects in the company in the past, everyone else is essentially leaving me alone, so on a good day I do maybe 3 hours of work, and the rest I’m left to myself.

In the meantime however, I don’t fuck around on YouTube (maybe I read some blind every now and then), I study and practice new technologies terribly diligently. For example, these days I’m studying modern C++ by reading several books. Prior to that was algorithms. And before that was a deep dive in the Linux kernel implementations. I want to get ready for FAANG essentially, and I also have a genuine interest in these things.

I assume that this will eventually end after all the systems I built will be replaced by the new hires and someone will recognize that I’m not useful anymore, but it’s been like this for almost a year now and people don’t seem to have noticed (management is very dysfunctional).

What do you think? Anyone shares the same experience? Do you think it might end up hurting me in the long term (and I don’t mean in this company, I mean in developing bad habits)?

TC: 240k cash (and 2M in equity on paper at the current valuation)

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  • Microsoft / Eng Iama3344
    You don't need Linux kernel deep dive and modern C++ to crack the big companies lol
    Oct 17, 2018 6
    • Microsoft / Eng Iama3344
      Fair enough
      Oct 17, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng Iama3344
      We could use someone like you
      Oct 17, 2018
    • New / Eng Appesinq
      OP
      Thanks that’s flattering!
      Oct 17, 2018
    • Apple Gg56fh
      If you’re interested, send us a resume.
      Oct 17, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng Iama3344
      Pm me op
      Oct 17, 2018
  • Facebook Bladyblahb
    If you do three whole productive hours of work per day in a dysfunctional startup as they hire low quality engineers, and you wrote everything and they need your advice, it'll be a long long time before they catch on that you think you're coasting.
    Oct 17, 2018 5
    • New / Eng Appesinq
      OP
      That’s surely been my impression. Since FB would be my target after I finish studying, do you think I would be shocked by the difference in work hours?
      Oct 17, 2018
    • Facebook Bladyblahb
      I haven't been here long enough to know (still in training), but I've worked all over for many years in many kinds/size companies. sometimes i had anxiety about the next role... I'm asking myself the same question about what the wlb will be at fb. I haven't actually been shocked yet anywhere else and I think if you've got a strong work ethic to begin with it's all the same.
      Oct 17, 2018
    • Facebook / Eng shitposter
      lol people here work their asses off literally. I used to average 10 hours a day in the office in some days to keep up with the pace.
      Oct 17, 2018
    • Facebook Bladyblahb
      Ten hrs "in the office?" with breakfast lunch and dinner?

      It's rare that I've spent less than 9.5 hrs at an office in a day at any job, in any kind of company large or small. I take a lunch break, so that's not really much more than 8 hrs of actual work. I check my personal email and I'm not always stressed/focused. I avoid weekend work and rarely if ever work from home in the evening.

      "used to" average 10 hrs/day doesn't sound that bad. When I was 22 I'd work 15 hrs in a day.
      Oct 17, 2018
    • New / Eng Appesinq
      OP
      Yea if it includes breakfast/lunch/dinner I’d say it’s not terrible.

      Even at my current startup “coasting” I sit my ass on the chair from 9am to 6-6:30pm.
      Oct 17, 2018
  • Oracle Arpootecht
    Same ⛵ as you, but not worried at all. All the learning makes me better when I do work, and both team and upper management appreciate higher quality results. Also actually don't want to move because worried I won't have the study time elsewhere and I enjoy it
    Oct 17, 2018 0
  • New / Eng
    Chandu101

    New Eng

    PRE
    Starbucks
    Chandu101more
    How don’t they notice you not working ?
    Do you work remotely? . Also do you own any major components in your company’s workflow ?
    Oct 17, 2018 1
    • New / Eng Appesinq
      OP
      I work from the office, but nobody looks at my screen. I have no management to report to, I maintain a few major projects I wrote and am usually called in for troubleshooting or for architectural meetings with the team. People just assume I’m busy lol. I was very early and as they hired managers and such they kept me out of the hierarchy, so technically I report directly to the VP but he doesn’t give a fuck, maybe he asks me to jump into some discussion every now and then.

      I think my knowledge of the system is good enough that people just assume that having me around just in case is worth it. But it’ll come to an end I’m sure, it just hasn’t happen in a year.
      Oct 17, 2018
  • Facebook iuga45
    You get paid for impact, not for work. If the work you put in to maintain those projects is valuable for the company, you should not feel guilty for it. Preparing to jump ship to a better one is the right strategy. I ended up in a similar position in my previous job and I did the same thing you are doing: prepare to interview for FAANG. Worked out pretty well. Also, you do need a lot of algorithms and data structures, Linux command line tools and system calls, as well as how the Linux Kernel manages its resources. No need to know obscure kernel internals though it doesn’t hurt
    Oct 17, 2018 0
  • Salesforce / Eng
    pppppeeeee

    Salesforce Eng

    PRE
    Facebook, Netflix
    pppppeeeeemore
    What company?
    Oct 17, 2018 5
    • New / Eng Appesinq
      OP
      Can’t say sorry, I was relatively early so if some of my colleagues or management read this my freedom could literally end :)
      Oct 17, 2018
    • Veritas / Product
      Job=jb.nxt

      Veritas Product

      PRE
      Calsoft, NetApp
      Job=jb.nxtmore
      If they are reading this, they may already start doubting.

      What happens to paper money if you leave? Do you have any secondary market?
      Oct 17, 2018
    • New / Eng Appesinq
      OP
      Haha I’m sure many people are in my position and as I said from the outside it always looks like I’m busy for the team :)

      My equity is half vested (I’d have to exercise it, I have the money), there’s no secondary market.
      Oct 17, 2018
    • Veritas / Product
      Job=jb.nxt

      Veritas Product

      PRE
      Calsoft, NetApp
      Job=jb.nxtmore
      Busy on Blind, just kidding.

      How much confidence do you have that this paper will turn real some day?
      Oct 17, 2018
    • New / Eng Appesinq
      OP
      Realistically I value it at 30-40 cents on the dollar in the best case, while management is trying to pitch it at 200-300 cents on the dollar (2-3X more growth in their opinion).

      I think we hired too many low quality people, especially in the product and eng side, to justify that growth. And we’re late (Series E), I have never seen that kind of growth that late in non-unicorns. Management it’s full of BS.

      It’s truly such a bad place to work these days. That’s why I just coast and study my own exciting things that hopefully will help me get into FAANG.
      Oct 17, 2018
  • Panasonic Avionics
    Tac0s

    Panasonic Avionics

    BIO
    🌮😌
    Tac0smore
    We just went into super micromanagement. We have meetings for meetings. LOL. Enjoy while you can.
    Oct 17, 2018 0
  • Amazon Xbcbdhxhxh
    Jealous =(
    Oct 17, 2018 1
    • New / Eng Appesinq
      OP
      I’m probably jealous of your comp, since it’s all liquid my friend!
      Oct 17, 2018
  • Veritas / Product
    Job=jb.nxt

    Veritas Product

    PRE
    Calsoft, NetApp
    Job=jb.nxtmore
    YOE?
    Oct 17, 2018 1

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