I hate this!

Intel Trying
Oct 18, 2018 46 Comments

-people who disclose all interview questions asked to them to their friends/colleagues

-people who refer others not looking at their credibility, but for relationship/favors or personal agendas

-people who sit with their spouse/friends to help them take online assessments in a group

-students that copy assignments at University/Udacity courses from each other/seniors and get better grades

-students that cheat during tests at University and score better marks

I never did any of the above, but I could see them happening around me. Complaining about such matters can be tricky. If you don't provide any proofs, you could be accused for making false accusations on others.

The brightest and most hard-working students/candidates fall short in the careers because of such collective malpractices by groups of cheaters. Please don't argue that the brighter/harder working candidates will eventually get there; coz that still doesn't justify why others get the initial leverage.

Can't there be a unanimous stand on these things? If not, how can it be stopped? Do you hate it too?

EDIT:
I had thought I'd get valuable information on how to report these things, and find people with mutual experiences as mine. But I'm just appalled by the sheer number of people that pounced on this post and are actually supporting the idea of plaigarism, mob-cheating; calling it teamwork; or making personal remarks based on where I work.

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  • Facebook / Eng
    zael

    Facebook Eng

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    zaelmore
    you sound annoying as hell
    Oct 18, 2018 6
    • Facebook / Eng
      zael

      Facebook Eng

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      zaelmore
      lol at using the word friendzoned too

      how bitter are you
      Oct 18, 2018
    • New goingin
      Lol how do you expect she'll fake the on-site?
      Oct 18, 2018
    • New goingin
      Your friend wasn't prepared it's as simple as that. I'd rather have your friends friend who knows how to get things done lol or buy herself more time to prepare for the on-site
      Oct 18, 2018
    • Intel Trying
      OP
      That friend of hers did go onsite, but she couldn't clear it.
      She missed it only narrowly.
      Regardless, her success/failure at the onsite rounds is not even the point of my post.
      Oct 19, 2018
    • New goingin
      I think that is the point cheating will only get you so far in life.
      Oct 19, 2018
  • New goingin
    Lol calm down that's why you work at Intel and not a real tech company. Focus on yourself and your life will be a lot better instead of others.
    Oct 18, 2018 6
    • New goingin
      Seems odd someone from Google would care about college students doing college student things lol
      Oct 18, 2018
    • Intel Ia64
      Intel is not a tech company? Lol. Intel is not a sw company you mean. Your ignorance is shocking.
      Oct 19, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      onMyWay

      Amazon Eng

      BIO
      AWS
      onMyWaymore
      Look at this “new” guy shit talking people and companies.

      As soon as you want to come back from your entrepreneurial LinkedIn experiment, let us know.
      Oct 19, 2018
    • Facebook dwws74
      Intel is a tech company, one of the strongest tech people I know at Fb came from there.
      Oct 19, 2018
    • Intel Ia64
      The problem is people associate tech with just application sw. Intel does plenty of heavy lifting in linux and windows drivers, firmware, microcode, bios, ec... It is just sad to see such ignorance among the next-gen techies.
      Oct 19, 2018
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    • SAP Ewq321
      Just wow!
      Oct 19, 2018
    • Intel Trying
      OP
      I disagree. I feel that cheating is for the weak. They did not show "potential". Instead, when they join a company, they are too unskilled and reliant on that one guy who genuinely is skilled and works hard. They eventually become a burden on the whole team, and consequently switch to repeat the same at another company.

      And only since you're making personal remarks on my competence, I must humbly defend that I've also had the skills to get things done. I've achieved significant milestones in my professional life through hard-work, without resorting to such malpractices.
      Oct 19, 2018
    • New goingin
      Yeah I don't agree with OP but brown rice you are way out of line. There is no correlation between cheating and being a CEO, entrepreneur. What you described is how a toxic environment works.
      Oct 19, 2018
  • Spotify / Eng asdfghjklo
    Exams and technical interviews/screens are much worse indicators of applicable job skills than mob cheating. Hell, mob cheating is about as close to the job as it gets.
    Oct 18, 2018 1
    • Oracle champa
      That works everywhere. Very corrupt and successful
      Oct 18, 2018
  • Microsoft / Eng Notsureof
    So many jerks in Blind saying cheating is ok. Is it ok if you lose out to cheaters for an important job? How about if your spouse cheated on you? What if your kid fails because of cheaters?

    This lack of ethics is why brining skilled talents is not necessarily positive to US. It is comical these cheaters are mocking honest American as not skilled or complain about illegal immigrants while their cheating is Ok. These same folks complain about green card being unfair or white people took too much advantage etc.

    No wonder we have so many unethical outsourcing companies that cheat in this country.
    Oct 19, 2018 2
    • Wow, casual racism and ignorant blanket statement is strong in this one...
      Oct 19, 2018
    • Red Hat
      quesera

      Red Hat

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      queseramore
      Which country?
      Oct 19, 2018
  • Google qi37$-yg
    Ever heard of TEAMWORK?
    Oct 18, 2018 0
  • New / Eng
    Prakash007

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    Prakash007more
    Game the system or the system will game you, looks like it’s the latter in your case.

    If you don’t game it, someone else will
    Oct 18, 2018 2
    • Intel Trying
      OP
      Plaigarism is strictly prohibited on every coursework of Udacity and every interview's technical assessment.
      So you would break the rules first because you know someone else will break them too?
      Oct 18, 2018
    • New / Eng
      Prakash007

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      Prakash007more
      I don’t know about udacity, for interviews , yes. Atleast until I get my first job, I will do every possible thing to get in ,

      For the subsequent ones, I agree I shouldn’t be greedy and rather see if you actually deserve it
      Oct 18, 2018
  • New goingin
    Honestly you sound like you failed some test that the average grade was a 80% on
    Oct 18, 2018 1
    • Intel Trying
      OP
      My friend did. Read my reply to another comment. It's quite sad honestly.
      Oct 18, 2018
  • IBM
    TC:374k

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    TC:374kmore
    TC or GTFO
    Oct 19, 2018 0
  • Amazon hlp
    The better an exam, the less sense it makes to "cheat". If your exam consists of filling a table of values I had to memorize, sorry, I'm bringing a cheat sheet.
    I came to school to learn about stuff, not to compete about grades or spend time memorizing some crap for incompetent teachers.
    Oct 19, 2018 0
  • PeerStreet / Other
    JenWush

    PeerStreet Other

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    JenWushmore
    You sound like a fun person at parties
    Oct 19, 2018 0
  • Apple Tattoo-
    Cool down buddy !
    Oct 18, 2018 0
  • HCL / Other jstwrkhere
    I’m appalled of all the comments on here. Geez
    Oct 19, 2018 2
    • Sorry to burst your bubble
      Oct 19, 2018
    • HCL / Other jstwrkhere
      Don’t be fooling yourself anytime, I’m a red pill myself.
      Oct 19, 2018
  • Mentor Graphics / Sales
    JinYang~

    Mentor Graphics Sales

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    A Siemens business..
    JinYang~more
    Hate the game not the players
    Oct 19, 2018 0
  • Tango Health / Eng WaterColor
    Life is unfair. Move on if you are smart. Whine if aren't
    Oct 19, 2018 0
  • Box Voldy
    Life is not fair
    Oct 19, 2018 0
  • SAP Ewq321
    How is disclosing interview questions unethical and I have seen pt 2 across all ethnicities. True it sucks.
    Oct 19, 2018 1
    • Oracle champa
      Yes tell person who make business writing book which sell by co-worker asking use
      Oct 19, 2018
  • Spotify cjwn
    There are so many more important things to worry about then the set of stuff you’re talking about. LeetCode could be considered mass cheating. That’s unfortunate your friend didn’t get in but is probably completely unrelated to the cheating you’re talking about. Realistically when you join a company you join their codebase too and it’s recommended to standardize. Also good colleagues share knowledge and help each other. You don’t end up being a good engineer by resolving problems in isolation.
    Oct 19, 2018 0
  • Oracle %=+1(_$5
    It's an unjust world
    Oct 18, 2018 0
  • Walmart.com / Eng Pssh!
    TL; DR: yes, cheating is wrong but it’s not as B/W as you think... depends on what’s at stake

    1. I think disclosing interview questions to a close friend is better than telling Leetcode. It’s wrong, I know. But for a moment consider that immigrants are under a lot of constraints... most have to find a job in 3 months. So if someone comes and tells you that s/he will be deported... what do you do? I would help because believe or not... someone told me exactly this and I felt very bad.

    Same with assignments... you have to maintain 3.0 GPA. You can argue that the person should have worked harder, never chose this stream or never did masters in the first place but now its the past.

    Blatantly copying the assignments is something I have hated too.
    Oct 19, 2018 0