My team is working at least 60/70+ hours average. Everybody comes in at like 11 and takes pride in leaving late, like 10-11.
- How is that possible? Are these people all super young? No families? No social life like dating and such? Sounds like a whole bunch of losers to me to be honest, who takes pride in leaving at 11 at MSFT? I would leave assuming TC is not insanely high. My TC is ~400k and I do 40h a week, as it should be.
- Company is not public or bought yet but it does periodic buy backs so have been able to sell some my my vested shares at an appreciated valuation and reach a liquid 400k in TC. I still have upside so I am not selling all of it, hoping it will grow by the time we go for an exit. Cash comp for me is 250k (base + perf bonus).
Am a SWE with 7 year of experience, and FB leveled me at E5 recently and offered me 350k TC. I told them fuck no lol.
Can’t say the name otherwise I’d be identified. I was fairly early on so I think that’s why I am “privileged” in wlb. Either way I don’t complain haha.6d2
- You complaining about 60-70? Clocking 84-90 at MS. Cloud is crazy but has taught me a lot at rapid pace
- You don't gain more knowledge by working 90 hours a week. There's only so much your brain can absorb in a day. Keep justifying being a slave and see others who work 40 hours a week get ahead of you. Someone who works 9-5 will become your boss while you still work every waking hour. Even black slaves on American coffee plantations had better WLB then you.
- Vanguard / EngkrampusMake fat commits and leave whenever you want to. You can't argue with performance
- Wrong answer. I’ve seen plenty of people shipping a lot of good code but being pushed to the sidelines because they weren’t conforming to the team dynamics, including staying in the office late.
That might perhaps work if your manager is actually a significant stakeholder in the company (e.g. founder), but not if he/she is instead a line manager living in a world of politics and bullshit.6d5
- Symantec WhiteHat_1Switch teams/companies. Bad work life balance is company and team dependent. In teams like you describe there is usually no way to change that, and if you work 9-5 you will disrupt the team dynamic and may end up getting piped.
- Amazon ☻☻Be a team player and join in. Perhaps they won't have to work so hard with you being a part of the team.
If thst doesnt worj then change the team quickly if you are not a good culture fit.