I miss living in Overland Park, KS!

Amazon XOVj11
Mar 30 26 Comments

Worked at Cerner in Software Engineering role. I know the pay sucks, and not many visa sponsoring employers in the Kansas City Area.

But everything else was perfect: lifestyle, housing affordability, COL, WLB, healthier food options, proximity to any kind of stores and services, safer neighborhood, mostly families around, no homeless on streets, so many all season indoor and outdoor activities, so many options on medical/ vision/ dental, downtown with just the right size of people and the music I like, and many more things.

I am still in dilemma to stay in Seattle at 210K TC building AWS services. Or if I should go back to Cerner in Kansas at 70K TC and live a more easy and cozy life.

Sometimes I wish Cerner could offer around 110K, then I don't have to think of moving out of Kansas City Area. Or if there can be more visa sponsoring big tech-employers in the Kansas City Area which can pay relatively higher.

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TOP 26 Comments
  • Amazon / Eng tylium
    Save up enough to pay off house in KC, then move back. Then learn to do rentals as KC is an amazing rental market.
    Mar 30 0
  • Amazon / Eng cryptolord
    Can’t win em all.
    Mar 30 0
  • Gap / Eng randUser
    Try Pittsburgh maybe? There's at least tech there
    Mar 30 2
    • New / Ops
      caittails

      New Ops

      BIO
      We can’t stop here; this is bat country.
      caittailsmore
      Pittsburg, Kansas? Lots of great fried chicken down there!
      Mar 30
    • ConocoPhillips Sham!
      Go Gorillas
      Mar 31
  • Microsoft €%ds32&@
    How can I get a job at Cerner?
    Mar 30 1
    • Yahoo
      ^$

      Yahoo

      PRE
      Salesforce, LinkedIn, Microsoft
      ^$more
      Apply online. Connect to recruiter on Linkedin. Or employee referral 😛
      Mar 30
  • Cerner / Eng chao_cern
    When I read the title of this post in my news feed, I expected trolls in the reply.. but you guys sound serious.
    Apr 15 0
  • How's the WLB at Cerner?
    Aug 25 3
    • Cerner .1
      Depends on team. Company ave hrs is 44. Flexible to address personal errands during biz hours. Mid career jobs have unlimited PTO.
      Nov 6
    • Microsoft njgcdflop
      What's the Tech stack?
      Nov 6
    • Cerner .1
      Depends on the product and the solution. Some of everything.
      Nov 7
  • Cerner
    cerner23

    Cerner

    PRE
    Cerner Corporation
    cerner23more
    Cerner does offer some serious money, if you're coming in as a Sr SE. Something closer to your asking range. Although, from personal experience someone who started as a fresher at cerner has little to no growth. Especially if you compare the TC being offer outside. You can definitely try applying with Cerner and negotiate pretty good this time. Good luck
    Nov 6 2
    • Microsoft njgcdflop
      How's the tech stack?
      Nov 6
    • Cerner
      cerner23

      Cerner

      PRE
      Cerner Corporation
      cerner23more
      well, it totally depends on the team. Some teams are working on age old tech stack and pure cerner developed language called CCL and on some really applications. With the latest transition to cloud, some teams are getting to work on really good tech stack relates to AWS, java and other. So, i would suggest that if anyone plans on applying here, talk to your tobe manager and ask them what's on their roadmap and if it aligns with your requirements them go for it.
      Nov 6
  • Cerner / Eng
    YaGY60

    Cerner Eng

    PRE
    Heartland
    BIO
    Sr software engineer
    YaGY60more
    Cerner loves to hire and fire. Every year thousands come in and thousands go out.
    Aug 22 1
    • Cerner .1
      Not true. Most people leave by their own initiative. Lots of early career hires that leave to chase money. Long time employee here.
      Nov 6
  • Amazon / Eng VrUI55
    There is a rumour that Cerner is firing a lot people.
    Aug 20 1
    • Cerner .1
      This profitable company is restructuring to increase operating margin. The same managers are hiring, transferring, accepting transfers, and laying off some associates. Specifically to software engineers, I have only seen below average performers laid off.
      Nov 6
  • Cerner OUBP04
    Sr SE can get 110k at Cerner
    Aug 25 0
  • Rally Health PWcK47
    You might get 100 as you are going from Amazon and I know Cerner is in desperate need of mid senior to senior developers
    Aug 19 0
  • Salesforce imposters
    If your not motivated by solving problems on the cutting edge of tech and being in the silicon valley/ Seattle ecosystem there's little benefit to not living in Kansas.
    Mar 31 0
  • Amazon yrtew
    You mentioned a lot of stuff but surprisingly not the Seattle weather. Seattle weather doesn’t bother you?
    Mar 30 0
  • New / Ops
    caittails

    New Ops

    BIO
    We can’t stop here; this is bat country.
    caittailsmore
    Overland Park is so lovely. My friend also had to leave Cerner because of pay. Honestly...if you can swing it and it’s what your heart wants, I say go for OP. I could be biased because I’m only 40 minutes away, though. You might look into BCBSKC for higher pay.
    Mar 30 0
  • Square Jr679773
    My cousin and her husband moved back to Overland Park. They had enough of California after a year here for the lifestyle benefits you mentioned
    Mar 30 0
  • Amazon / Eng sisycules
    life's about trade-offs
    Mar 30 0

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