I thought I was doing good till I joined blind

New FOVU54
Jun 7 26 Comments

5 year fullstack engineer, CS undergrad from big ten. Done everything from front end, back end, databases and dev ops. Non-fang experience. Living in midwest.

42k right out of college
72k second job
100k third job
115k fourth job

Then I see people here with 300-400k. With the same amount of experience. I hate leetcode so I never attempted to join a fang. Does fang really make that big of a difference?

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  • Intuit ls cd
    these salaries only exist in silicon valley and a few other big city hubs. 115k a year in the Midwest is a better life. you probably have a nicer house, your children can play outside, you don't sit in 6 lanes of traffic 90 minutes a day, you don't have homeless shitting on your car, and you feel at home in your community and at work. enjoy what you have.
    Jun 7 5
    • New FOVU54
      OP
      Would you consider Chicago a big city hub? I don't know if Im just not looking at the right place, but I really can't find salaries like those anywhere here.
      Jun 7
    • Amazon / Eng
      simmadown

      Amazon Eng

      BIO
      Hiring in nyc for exciting high visibility project. PM me for deets, esp FAANG people.
      simmadownmore
      No. “big city hub” != “tech hub”

      And for the record, if you’re good and can get hired, you can make 250 now in a tech hub. No one will care (and isn’t even allowed to ask) what you make now.
      Jun 7
    • Cisco help-desk
      I’ve been offered to take my shit TC to RTP North Carolina with no decrease but wife won’t move!! Would go over in a second if I could!
      Jun 7
    • Facebook / Eng
      deepanalys

      Facebook Eng

      PRE
      Facebook
      deepanalysmore
      That sounds like a decrease in wife.
      Jun 8
    • Cisco help-desk
      Keep workin in your condo bud
      Jun 8
  • Nextdoor / Product recess
    Doing well*
    Jun 7 1
  • Amazon toocold
    There’s a lot of stuff that you don’t hear about FAANG as well-people on performance plans,people having health problems because of the stress,failed relationships because of the stress etc.This doesn’t happen at all the big ones but happens a lot in different teams.
    My advice -as long as your happy with what you earn,have a good relationship and good colleagues to work with(and reasonably Satisfied with your work) you have the best job in the word.
    Obviously doesn’t hurt to interview with FAANG but always know that there will be some potential drawbacks
    Jun 7 0
  • Honeywell wellHoney
    Do you plan on moving to Bay Area or Seattle or similar tech hub?
    You could probably get a nice boost coming out here for a couple years, get a/couple big tech company on the resume and go back with the experience and some ‘California money’. If you plan it well you could get a decent little chunk of money and have a more attractive resume.

    But yes, $120k-$150k in the Midwest (I.e. like Ohio, not Chicago) is worth $350k in Cali
    Jun 7 2
    • Comcast G0ku
      I call BS cost of living factor isn’t 2x. Keep telling yourself that to justify lower TC. Once basic needs are met (~60k for a single person) the rest goes straight to bank/brokerage account. OP - I know it sucks to know you’re underpaid but you have taken the red pill now by joining blind. It will show you the truth
      Jun 7
    • Honeywell wellHoney
      Have you lived in the Midwest? I have.
      For most of my life, in a very low cost of living area. Things like iPad are pretty expensive since it’s the same price everywhere in the states.

      But renting a 1500 sqft place was $500/mo, half that with a roommate. Things like milk and bread are 60% the cost here. Similar experience for utilities (especially water), restaurants and entertainment.

      For SF you have a lot of stuff that adds up fast. First and foremost is the dreaded real estate / mortgage / rent. Easily 5x higher and this is the most expensive piece! Add up all the 10%-40% increases for the necessities. But then you have all the “EXTRAS” that the rural areas don’t have at all. Parking fees, bridge tolls, higher taxes, public transit, child care is almost 2x alone.

      In summary - it most certainly 100% guaranteed is at LEAST 2x to live in and around the Bay Area compared to some small towns in the Midwest. So YOU keep telling yourself that to justify the cost of the bay. If OP is in a smaller Midwest town, 6 figures is above average for 10YOE senior SWE.
      Jun 8
  • Fannie Mae UVDo25
    I agree reading posts here make me feel stressed. I didn’t like these at first but now I am addicted to these. I think it is better to know what is out there than being blind...
    Jun 7 1
    • New FOVU54
      OP
      I guess that's why employers don't like people talking about salaries. They can't low ball otherwise.
      Jun 7
  • Google nrvD43
    Beyond a certain TC, money really doesn't affect happiness. 120k in the midwest is already solid - getting 280k or whatever in the bay area won't make you that much happier if at all. Even if it does, you will be unhappy again once you realize there are people making 400k, 500k, 1m, 2m, etc... neverending cycle. We humans are incredibly good at adapting.

    Delete Blind if you need to and focus on your own life. If you want to take a shot at FAANG, do it for more interesting or technically challenging projects.
    Jun 8 1
    • AnchorFree / Eng 🍪 cookie
      On the other hand there are people like me, who are not jealous. When I found out about 300-400k salaries at my level (SRE 12yoe) I didn't even blink. Until the wlb at my current place gets worse (thus pushing me to look for other options) I'm not going anywhere.
      TC 140.
      Jun 9
  • Google / Eng yogi bear
    Sounds like we have another one joining our rat race. I am retiring from this race and made some decent progress. Try live a happy life, that is a lot more challenging than living a wealthy life. Also be aware of COL, most things are dirt cheap in midwest, 115k actually doesn’t sound bad at all.
    Jun 8 0
  • AnchorFree / Eng 🍪 cookie
    It means the programming positions bring more value to the company.
    If their nanobuzzwordology would benefit a few billion people, the nanotech pros will become the most paid folks.
    Jun 7 0
  • New / Eng 🐍 snake
    Yup you are correct. You are lowballed and you should start leetcoding.

    You could get 300k with that YOe
    Jun 7 2
    • Pure Storage meemeep
      How do you get 300k with a few YoE?
      Jun 7
    • New / Eng 🐍 snake
      Leetcode to FAANG
      Jun 7
  • Illumina tylerdill8
    Programming salaries are an anomaly. PhD in nanotechnology making 160k, don’t touch some of these young is coding apps that serve no practical value
    Jun 7 1
    • New / Eng 🐍 snake
      I could be biased as a SWE but it depends on the practicality of what one builds. Your generalization is not correct
      Jun 7
  • eBay oltpycsb
    Ignorance is bliss
    Jun 7 1
    • New FOVU54
      OP
      So true, I would have been happy if I didn't join blind
      Jun 7
  • Facebook / Eng vlMg30
    FAANG really does make a difference. The industry is as bi-modal as law.
    Jun 7 0